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welch
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Countertrey
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Saw this yesterday... wondering how many here understand how important this man was to the dynasty that became the Redskins of the 80's... it was all built on the foundation created by Pardee...
It was Pardee who brought Riggins to the team. It was Pardee who brought in Richie Pettibon to be the Defensive Coordinator. Heck, as the Head Coach of the Houston Gamblers, he converted flashy running back Ricky Sanders into a wide receiver... even that ended up working out pretty darned well for US. |
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| He may have brought Riggins in, but he used him as a blocking fullback. |
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Countertrey
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| Deadskins wrote: | | He may have brought Riggins in, but he used him as a blocking fullback. |
You sure of your "facts"? Riggins played under Pardee for 3 seasons... in 1977, he lost much of the year to a knee injury, after being used mostly as a short yardage battering ram (not, a blocking back)... but he ran for over 1000 yards in '78 and '79 as the featured back under Pardee... pretty damned prolific for a "blocking back"... (a 1000 yard season was still HUGE in the '70's)
Riggins was ALWAYS the man... |
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welch
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Allen signed Riggins but used him as the up-back in the I. The blocking back.
Pardee let Joe Walton open the offense, and Walton went to the two-back normal pro formation...and Riggins took off. I still remember that do-or-die Dallas game during the 10 - 6 season, when Riggins sprinted around the corner and out-ran the entire Dallas defense. Still had his speed.
A big thing about Jack Pardee is that Allen had him calling the defensive plays...Pardee was no longer the overpowering athlete, but he was still a great linebacker because of his brain.
The Redskin defense carried on as among the toughest and most complex in the league from Allen through Pardee to Petibon. That's more than 20 consecutive seasons. |
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| Countertrey wrote: | | Deadskins wrote: | | He may have brought Riggins in, but he used him as a blocking fullback. |
You sure of your "facts"? Riggins played under Pardee for 3 seasons... in 1977, he lost much of the year to a knee injury, after being used mostly as a short yardage battering ram (not, a blocking back)... but he ran for over 1000 yards in '78 and '79 as the featured back under Pardee... pretty damned prolific for a "blocking back"... (a 1000 yard season was still HUGE in the '70's)
Riggins was ALWAYS the man... |
I got that from his episode of "A Football Life." Riggins said he was unhappy about being used as a blocking back when he first came to DC. But, it seems we both were wrong on the "facts."
| welch wrote: | | Allen signed Riggins but used him as the up-back in the I. The blocking back. |
I thought I remembered it being Allen that brought in Riggo, but I took your word for it.  |
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Countertrey
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You can't listen to Welch... he still steals milk money from elementary school kids.  |
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welch
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| Countertrey wrote: | | You can't listen to Welch... he still steals milk money from elementary school kids. |
But I remember Choo Choo Justice!
(And also remember that George signed Riggins and Calvin Hill at the same time...and neither did much running because the tailback carries the ball from the I. Larry Brown at first, and then Mike Thomas.)
Was considered odd: Hill, Brown, and Riggins had been all-pro at some time, but the 25th round pick, Mike Thomas, ran the ball. [Slight overstatement re Thomas's pick, but he was not well known] |
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Cancer is the worst disease imaginable. I've lost 2 people close to me to this horrible disease in recent years.
At least he will be surrounded by family. That's really all you can expect. |
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| The Hogster wrote: | Cancer is the worst disease imaginable. I've lost 2 people close to me to this horrible disease in recent years.
At least he will be surrounded by family. That's really all you can expect. |
As best I remember, Pardee had some sort of skin cancer while a player. Got treatment and beat that one. Howard Cosell would always mention it: "Jack Par-dee...has al-ready beaten the...Big...C"... |
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Jack Pardee was the one who started the Super Bowl runs. No, he wasn't an innovator, but he build a solid well coached team and set Gibbs up for success.
Much like Shannahan is doing now. |
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