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DarthMonk
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:13 pm Post subject: BCS Playoffs! Playoffs? |
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They're going to 4 teams in 2014. I'd prefer 8.
Of these who would be in your 4 teamer and which 4 would you add to make 8?
1. Notre Dame
2. Alabama
3. Georgia
4. Florida
5. Oregon
6. Kansas State
7. LSU
8. Stanford
9. Texas A&M
10. Florida State
11. Clemson
12. South Carolina
13. Oklahoma
14. Nebraska
15. Oregon State
16. Texas
I like 8 because #3 will have a legit gripe if they get excluded from a top 2 title game justifying a 4 teamer giving #5 a legit gripe, but #9 will never have that claim.
Could you imagine the ratings for 2 quarterfinals on Saturday Dec 15, the semis on the 22, and the finals on Monday Night after Wild-Card Weekend in the NFL? |
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Countertrey
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: BCS Playoffs! Playoffs? |
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| DarthMonk wrote: | | I like 8 because #3 will have a legit gripe if they get excluded from a top 2 title game justifying a 4 teamer giving #5 a legit gripe, but #9 will never have that claim. |
Try them...  |
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DarthMonk
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: BCS Playoffs! Playoffs? |
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| Countertrey wrote: | | DarthMonk wrote: | | I like 8 because #3 will have a legit gripe if they get excluded from a top 2 title game justifying a 4 teamer giving #5 a legit gripe, but #9 will never have that claim. |
Try them... |
These are mine:
Notre Dame
Alabama
Georgia
Florida
LSU
Texas A&M
Ohio State
Florida State
My number 9 (Oregon) just blew it and has no legit gripe to belonging in a top 2 matchup. 
The BCS #9 (A&M) has 2 losses.
Sorry boys. 
Imagine these games: in 2 weeks:
FSU vs. ND
OSU vs. Bama
A&M vs UGA
LSU vs. FLA
OMFG! The NFL wouldn't bother with Saturday.
Got 8? |
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welch
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I'd vote for: no BCS, just bowl games and let them vote. I don't need a BCS champion, and, as Russell Maryland (Miami / Dallas Cowboys) said when the NCAA playoffs was first suggested: "They aren't promising to pay us for these extra games".
Added evidence: colleague of mine at GE in the '80s had a "little cousin" who was recruited to play QB at Boston College to follow Flutie. Considered too small for major college QB, he was still the only kid in New Jersey willing to tackle "Ironhead" Heyward head-on. Became a DB. Suffered a broken back when a team-mate speared him diving into a pile at the goal-line.
The cousin went back to BC to finish his senior year, because he had a scholarship even though they had used up his playing eligibility. The college was angry...thought he should go away if he wasn't playing football. He wanted his degree, and he got it.
(One of the reasons I dislike big-time college football: the hypocrisy about "student-athletes". How many finish without a useful degree and do not have a career in the NFL?) |
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DarthMonk
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| welch wrote: | I'd vote for: no BCS, just bowl games and let them vote. I don't need a BCS champion, and, as Russell Maryland (Miami / Dallas Cowboys) said when the NCAA playoffs was first suggested: "They aren't promising to pay us for these extra games".
Added evidence: colleague of mine at GE in the '80s had a "little cousin" who was recruited to play QB at Boston College to follow Flutie. Considered too small for major college QB, he was still the only kid in New Jersey willing to tackle "Ironhead" Heyward head-on. Became a DB. Suffered a broken back when a team-mate speared him diving into a pile at the goal-line.
The cousin went back to BC to finish his senior year, because he had a scholarship even though they had used up his playing eligibility. The college was angry...thought he should go away if he wasn't playing football. He wanted his degree, and he got it.
(One of the reasons I dislike big-time college football: the hypocrisy about "student-athletes". How many finish without a useful degree and do not have a career in the NFL?) |
I'd pay 'em.
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welch
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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| DarthMonk wrote: | | welch wrote: | I'd vote for: no BCS, just bowl games and let them vote. I don't need a BCS champion, and, as Russell Maryland (Miami / Dallas Cowboys) said when the NCAA playoffs was first suggested: "They aren't promising to pay us for these extra games".
Added evidence: colleague of mine at GE in the '80s had a "little cousin" who was recruited to play QB at Boston College to follow Flutie. Considered too small for major college QB, he was still the only kid in New Jersey willing to tackle "Ironhead" Heyward head-on. Became a DB. Suffered a broken back when a team-mate speared him diving into a pile at the goal-line.
The cousin went back to BC to finish his senior year, because he had a scholarship even though they had used up his playing eligibility. The college was angry...thought he should go away if he wasn't playing football. He wanted his degree, and he got it.
(One of the reasons I dislike big-time college football: the hypocrisy about "student-athletes". How many finish without a useful degree and do not have a career in the NFL?) |
I'd pay 'em.
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Me, too. |
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SkinsJock
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| welch wrote: | | .. One of the reasons I dislike big-time college football: the hypocrisy about "student-athletes". How many finish without a useful degree and do not have a career in the NFL? |
VERY interesting thought - I agree with this ..
I also agree with the premise that the colleges should find a way to 'pay' student/athletes ...
on a slightly different note .. I also do not think that under the present 'system', a playoff is needed ...
IF it is so 'important' - why could the NFL not have and pay for a college playoff after the bowl games |
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Deadskins
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| SkinsJock wrote: | | welch wrote: | | .. One of the reasons I dislike big-time college football: the hypocrisy about "student-athletes". How many finish without a useful degree and do not have a career in the NFL? |
VERY interesting thought - I agree with this ..
I also agree with the premise that the colleges should find a way to 'pay' student/athletes ... |
Geez, some would think the opportunity for a $100,000+ gratis education might be payment. If the "student-athletes" don't take advantage, then that's on them. I suppose many are just using it as a stepping stone to the NFL, and that's OK, if you are certain of being drafted, but everyone is just an injury away from retirement. And with the rookie wage scale, they may never see that huge payday. |
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langleyparkjoe
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| Deadskins wrote: | | Geez, some would think the opportunity for a $100,000+ gratis education might be payment. If the "student-athletes" don't take advantage, then that's on them. |
Yup, because there's plenty of very bright kids who can't get a scholarship even though they deserve it. I agree with that DS |
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DarthMonk
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| langleyparkjoe wrote: | | Deadskins wrote: | | Geez, some would think the opportunity for a $100,000+ gratis education might be payment. If the "student-athletes" don't take advantage, then that's on them. |
Yup, because there's plenty of very bright kids who can't get a scholarship even though they deserve it. I agree with that DS |
It's a good point and is often overlooked.
It bugs the hell out of me though when I see awesome athletes at the grocery store buying cheap food for dinner (seen it first hand) cuz they got no cash and can't work and if they get a lift in a golf cart they're suspended while the college rakes in the cash. |
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DarthMonk
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If only ...
1 Notre Dame vs. 8 Stanford
2 Alabama vs. 7 Oregon
3 Florida vs. 6 Ohio State
4 LSU vs. 5 Texas A&M
This Saturday the ratings would be through the roof. |
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SkinsJock
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Notre Dame fans and NBC would be really pissed when Stanford beat them  |
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DarthMonk
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| SkinsJock wrote: | | Notre Dame fans and NBC would be really pissed when Stanford beat them |
But NBC would get over it immediately when the semifinals came along a week later. |
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DarthMonk
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone know who has won any of the bowl games so far?
If we had just had quarters and semis the past two weeks with this week off for next week's final a bunch of us probalby would have watched.
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