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skinsfan#33
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| SkinsJock wrote: |  we can do better WITHOUT Kyle
Kyle is not terrible but we'd be better off without him
actually - I'd rather have Haslett than Kyle
RG3 has made the offense work despite having this kid call plays |
Ok, so how do you explain 2011 when the O was in the to half of the nfl in both ToP and yards per game? We had no WR, no OL, no RB, and certainly no QB! Collectively on offense our talent was bottom five, yet Kyle still figured out ways to get our players open and some how got Royster and Helu give 100 games in the last third of the season.
No I don't like all of what Kyle calls, but he has been a virtual Merlin conjuring up ways to get our WRs and TEs open! We still have barely any talent at WR, or OL, or TE, yet we are #7 in the NFL. Yes RG3 and Morris have a lot to do with that, but you still didn't address the fact that Kyle's pay calling gets bottom level hellbent wide open so RG3 can find them.
No we would not be better with out him! |
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cowboykillerzRGiii
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No offence scores every play... Some people take stuff way to personal. Some plays that don't work, set up the next.play that does. Dropping nearly 30 points a game, top five in total O, top ten in points, yards, and number two in rushing??
Again sj the hell you want man? |
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riggofan
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| SkinsJock wrote: | we can do better WITHOUT Kyle
Kyle is not terrible but we'd be better off without him
actually - I'd rather have Haslett than Kyle |
Really?? hah. I'd be a lot more in favor of a new defensive coordinator if somebody really good was available. I'm not sure what evidence there is that we would be better off without Kyle.
Personally I liked all of the reports about Kyle working with RGIII in the offseason. I don't think we had even drafted RGIII yet and Kyle was down in Waco helping him get up to speed on the playbook. |
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funsho2
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| vikings, seahawks and bucs lose....skins still alive in the wild card race |
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SkinsJock
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| riggofan wrote: | | SkinsJock wrote: | we can do better WITHOUT Kyle
Kyle is not terrible but we'd be better off without him
actually - I'd rather have Haslett than Kyle |
Really?? hah. I'd be a lot more in favor of a new defensive coordinator if somebody really good was available. I'm not sure what evidence there is that we would be better off without Kyle.
Personally I liked all of the reports about Kyle working with RGIII in the offseason. I don't think we had even drafted RGIII yet and Kyle was down in Waco helping him get up to speed on the playbook. |
riggo - I think Kyles a good OC - It's just that I think we could do better with someone else
we have a QB in RG3 that is not like anybody else - this kid is something really special
let's face it - Mike is most likely here for another year and Kyle is here with him - I'm just looking forward to having RG3 with better guys as HC, OC and DC
not really a big deal - it's just me - we're going to be fine with these guys and Mike deserves some credo just for bringing in RG3
we're going to eventually see a really good OC in here and that will be special
I'm just not a Kyle fan .. I just want to get to 8-8 or 9-7 and get ready for next season ...
IMHO - we're looking a whole lot better than we did in spite of Kyle  |
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skinsfan#33
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| SkinsJock wrote: | | riggofan wrote: | | SkinsJock wrote: | we can do better WITHOUT Kyle
Kyle is not terrible but we'd be better off without him
actually - I'd rather have Haslett than Kyle |
Really?? hah. I'd be a lot more in favor of a new defensive coordinator if somebody really good was available. I'm not sure what evidence there is that we would be better off without Kyle.
Personally I liked all of the reports about Kyle working with RGIII in the offseason. I don't think we had even drafted RGIII yet and Kyle was down in Waco helping him get up to speed on the playbook. |
riggo - I think Kyles a good OC - It's just that I think we could do better with someone else
we have a QB in RG3 that is not like anybody else - this kid is something really special
let's face it - Mike is most likely here for another year and Kyle is here with him - I'm just looking forward to having RG3 with better guys as HC, OC and DC
not really a big deal - it's just me - we're going to be fine with these guys and Mike deserves some credo just for bringing in RG3
we're going to eventually see a really good OC in here and that will be special
I'm just not a Kyle fan .. I just want to get to 8-8 or 9-7 and get ready for next season ...
IMHO - we're looking a whole lot better than we did in spite of Kyle |
I can't figure out if you are being serious or if trying to fill the troll void on the site or if someone skipped some "medication" in your brownies.
You haven't addressed the fact that the 2011 offense was way more productive than it had any right to be based on the bottom five talent.
Or the fact that it its Kyle's plays and play call timing that gets average (at best) recievers and TEs wide open! Yes, RG3 makes a big difference but Kyle didn't have him in Houston, where the Texans had the #1 offense in the NFL! |
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SkinsJock
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| HA - you haven't addressed the notion that as good as RG3 is with this OC he'd be a lot better with a good OC - HA |
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SkinsJock
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| HA - you haven't addressed the notion that as good as RG3 is with this OC he'd be a lot better with a good OC - HA |
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welch
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| "Just win the next game": Joe Gibbs. |
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SkinsJock
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| skinsfan#33 wrote: | Ok, so how do you explain 2011 when the O was in the to half of the nfl in both ToP and yards per game? We had no WR, no OL, no RB, and certainly no QB! Collectively on offense our talent was bottom five, yet Kyle still figured out ways to get our players open and some how got Royster and Helu give 100 games in the last third of the season.
No I don't like all of what Kyle calls, but he has been a virtual Merlin conjuring up ways to get our WRs and TEs open! We still have barely any talent at WR, or OL, or TE, yet we are #7 in the NFL. Yes RG3 and Morris have a lot to do with that, but you still didn't address the fact that Kyle's pay calling gets bottom level hellbent wide open so RG3 can find them.
No we would not be better with out him! |
I must have missed something - what was the win loss record with this amazing OC ??
I'm not saying that Kyle's a bad OC - I'm just saying that I think the offense would be better without him
a lot of the better plays have been due to RG3 OR the opposing defense making bad plays - NOT Kyle's great play calling
we're going to see RG3 with a better OC sooner or later - I can wait
having fun? sounds like your panties are all bunched up |
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skinsfan#33
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| SkinsJock wrote: | | skinsfan#33 wrote: | Ok, so how do you explain 2011 when the O was in the to half of the nfl in both ToP and yards per game? We had no WR, no OL, no RB, and certainly no QB! Collectively on offense our talent was bottom five, yet Kyle still figured out ways to get our players open and some how got Royster and Helu give 100 games in the last third of the season.
No I don't like all of what Kyle calls, but he has been a virtual Merlin conjuring up ways to get our WRs and TEs open! We still have barely any talent at WR, or OL, or TE, yet we are #7 in the NFL. Yes RG3 and Morris have a lot to do with that, but you still didn't address the fact that Kyle's pay calling gets bottom level hellbent wide open so RG3 can find them.
No we would not be better with out him! |
I must have missed something - what was the win loss record with this amazing OC ??
I'm not saying that Kyle's a bad OC - I'm just saying that I think the offense would be better without him
a lot of the better plays have been due to RG3 OR the opposing defense making bad plays - NOT Kyle's great play calling
we're going to see RG3 with a better OC sooner or later - I can wait
having fun? sounds like your panties are all bunched up |
I'm not into panties (maybe your thing,, but not mine) but my boxer briefs are not in a bunch.
I'm just responding to totally irrational post. |
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skinsfan#33
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| SkinsJock wrote: | | skinsfan#33 wrote: | Ok, so how do you explain 2011 when the O was in the to half of the nfl in both ToP and yards per game? We had no WR, no OL, no RB, and certainly no QB! Collectively on offense our talent was bottom five, yet Kyle still figured out ways to get our players open and some how got Royster and Helu give 100 games in the last third of the season.
No I don't like all of what Kyle calls, but he has been a virtual Merlin conjuring up ways to get our WRs and TEs open! We still have barely any talent at WR, or OL, or TE, yet we are #7 in the NFL. Yes RG3 and Morris have a lot to do with that, but you still didn't address the fact that Kyle's pay calling gets bottom level hellbent wide open so RG3 can find them.
No we would not be better with out him! |
I must have missed something - what was the win loss record with this amazing OC ??
I'm not saying that Kyle's a bad OC - I'm just saying that I think the offense would be better without him
a lot of the better plays have been due to RG3 OR the opposing defense making bad plays - NOT Kyle's great play calling
we're going to see RG3 with a better OC sooner or later - I can wait
having fun? sounds like your panties are all bunched up |
I'm not into panties (maybe your thing,, but not mine) but my boxer briefs are not in a bunch.
I'm just responding to totally irrational post. |
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Chris Luva Luva
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:29 am Post subject: |
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| SkinsJock wrote: | | Kyle's play calling has NOT - he's lucky his QB and wideouts bailed us out |
Wow... This is a joke post, right? It has to be, because nobody could actually believe that.
Do you not realize that Kyle created this hybrid offense? That he's taken pieces of his fathers scheme, the Texans scheme and what RGIII is comfortable with from Baylor and created one of the most unique offenses in the NFL? Nobody in the NFL is doing what we are doing right now, nobody.
Don't believe me, check the latest podcast from NFL Films Analyst Greg Cosell and listen to how he and his partner gush over what's being done here.
If anyone ever wants to get inside the mindset of the Pre-Shanny era Daniel Snyder, just read the forums. Read the outlandish, the illogical, dramatic and over the top thoughts. He is/was a fan. He thinks like a lot of people here think. And I am oooooooooooo so thankful this holiday season for his new mindset. |
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The Hogster
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| Not sure if Skins Jock is trolling or being serious. |
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Irn-Bru
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Chris Luva Luva wrote: | | Do you not realize that Kyle created this hybrid offense? That he's taken pieces of his fathers scheme, the Texans scheme and what RGIII is comfortable with from Baylor and created one of the most unique offenses in the NFL? Nobody in the NFL is doing what we are doing right now, nobody. |
I'm pretty sure I saw the Giants run at least one play out of the pistol formation last night. Kind of interesting to see. |
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