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absinthe1023
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| cowboykillerzRGiii wrote: | | Paulsen... Isn't injured it appears |
good to see him bounce back and make a great play. Great to see RGIII's first (of hopefully many) 4 TD games come against Philthy. |
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absinthe1023
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| capitaldefense wrote: | | absinthe1023 wrote: | | Irn-Bru wrote: | | absinthe1023 wrote: | | Chris Luva Luva wrote: | | absinthe1023 wrote: | | D-U-M dumb. |
This post? Yes I agree. |
Easy tiger, the quote is from a movie. I wanted to see a FG attempt and a potential 21 pt lead. What's wrong with that? |
Being aggressive in that situation is, statistically, the better decision. I liked it as a call even though it didn't work out for us.
In fact I've really liked the Shanahan's tolerance for risk on 4th downs this year. One area where we are on the cutting edge, IMO. |
I'm usually a proponent for going for it on 4th and short, but with a chance to create a 21 point lead on a team that hasn't yet scored a TD, you gotta think that a FG (well within Forbath's comfort zone) is the right call. Subsequent events have made this a moot point, thankfully. I was hoping for an edifying response from the first person to respond to my post, I can only presume that it must be hard to post with one's foot in one's mouth. |
We just scored again, moot point now. |
As I wrote, I thought it was a moot point BEFORE the score. |
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Chris Luva Luva
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| absinthe1023 wrote: | | Irn-Bru wrote: | | absinthe1023 wrote: | | Chris Luva Luva wrote: | | absinthe1023 wrote: | | D-U-M dumb. |
This post? Yes I agree. |
Easy tiger, the quote is from a movie. I wanted to see a FG attempt and a potential 21 pt lead. What's wrong with that? |
Being aggressive in that situation is, statistically, the better decision. I liked it as a call even though it didn't work out for us.
In fact I've really liked the Shanahan's tolerance for risk on 4th downs this year. One area where we are on the cutting edge, IMO. |
I'm usually a proponent for going for it on 4th and short, but with a chance to create a 21 point lead on a team that hasn't yet scored a TD, you gotta think that a FG (well within Forbath's comfort zone) is the right call. Subsequent events have made this a moot point, thankfully. I was hoping for an edifying response from the first person to respond to my post, I can only presume that it must be hard to post with one's foot in one's mouth. |
We have 30+ points. Thus making your crying pointless. |
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1niksder
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Location: If I knew ... it would explain a lot but I've seen Homerville on a map, that wasn't helpful at all
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| absinthe1023 wrote: | | Irn-Bru wrote: | | absinthe1023 wrote: | | Chris Luva Luva wrote: | | absinthe1023 wrote: | | D-U-M dumb. |
This post? Yes I agree. |
Easy tiger, the quote is from a movie. I wanted to see a FG attempt and a potential 21 pt lead. What's wrong with that? |
Being aggressive in that situation is, statistically, the better decision. I liked it as a call even though it didn't work out for us.
In fact I've really liked the Shanahan's tolerance for risk on 4th downs this year. One area where we are on the cutting edge, IMO. |
I'm usually a proponent for going for it on 4th and short, but with a chance to create a 21 point lead on a team that hasn't yet scored a TD, you gotta think that a FG (well within Forbath's comfort zone) is the right call. Subsequent events have made this a moot point, thankfully. I was hoping for an edifying response from the first person to respond to my post, I can only presume that it must be hard to post with one's foot in one's mouth. |
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Irn-Bru
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| absinthe1023 wrote: | | I'm usually a proponent for going for it on 4th and short, but with a chance to create a 21 point lead on a team that hasn't yet scored a TD, you gotta think that a FG (well within Forbath's comfort zone) is the right call. |
I disagree. We were up by 18 at the time. That's three scores no matter how you look at it. The only thing being up by 21 does is change three unanswered TDs by the Eagles from a win into a tie. We are talking a very unlikely scenario.
On the other hand, had we converted, we'd be threatening with the TD, eating up clock, and the FG would still be there in case the drive totally stalled.
The concrete benefits are much higher in the second scenario, which on a 4th and inches makes the risk worth it, IMO. |
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absinthe1023
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Chris Luva Luva wrote: | | absinthe1023 wrote: | | Irn-Bru wrote: | | absinthe1023 wrote: | | Chris Luva Luva wrote: | | absinthe1023 wrote: | | D-U-M dumb. |
This post? Yes I agree. |
Easy tiger, the quote is from a movie. I wanted to see a FG attempt and a potential 21 pt lead. What's wrong with that? |
Being aggressive in that situation is, statistically, the better decision. I liked it as a call even though it didn't work out for us.
In fact I've really liked the Shanahan's tolerance for risk on 4th downs this year. One area where we are on the cutting edge, IMO. |
I'm usually a proponent for going for it on 4th and short, but with a chance to create a 21 point lead on a team that hasn't yet scored a TD, you gotta think that a FG (well within Forbath's comfort zone) is the right call. Subsequent events have made this a moot point, thankfully. I was hoping for an edifying response from the first person to respond to my post, I can only presume that it must be hard to post with one's foot in one's mouth. |
We have 30+ points. Thus making your crying pointless. |
Crying? My face is quite dry, sir. Please don't persist in thinking that your opinion of my posts on a message board makes any impact on either my thoughts or my future actions. |
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absinthe1023
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| Irn-Bru wrote: | | absinthe1023 wrote: | | I'm usually a proponent for going for it on 4th and short, but with a chance to create a 21 point lead on a team that hasn't yet scored a TD, you gotta think that a FG (well within Forbath's comfort zone) is the right call. |
I disagree. We were up by 18 at the time. That's three scores no matter how you look at it. The only thing being up by 21 does is change three unanswered TDs by the Eagles from a win into a tie. We are talking a very unlikely scenario.
On the other hand, had we converted, we'd be threatening with the TD, eating up clock, and the FG would still be there in case the drive totally stalled.
The concrete benefits are much higher in the second scenario, which on a 4th and inches makes the risk worth it, IMO. |
Certainly, it can be argued both ways, and there isn't a clear-cut right and wrong. I also agree that attempting to justify the action in light of the result is faulty logic. |
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1niksder
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| I think Shanny can say WTF he wants after this game, come back the next day day and tell everyone that he didn't say what we heard him say and blame the press as long as they play this way on Thursday |
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Chris Luva Luva
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| absinthe1023 wrote: | | Chris Luva Luva wrote: | | absinthe1023 wrote: | | Irn-Bru wrote: | | absinthe1023 wrote: | | Chris Luva Luva wrote: | | absinthe1023 wrote: | | D-U-M dumb. |
This post? Yes I agree. |
Easy tiger, the quote is from a movie. I wanted to see a FG attempt and a potential 21 pt lead. What's wrong with that? |
Being aggressive in that situation is, statistically, the better decision. I liked it as a call even though it didn't work out for us.
In fact I've really liked the Shanahan's tolerance for risk on 4th downs this year. One area where we are on the cutting edge, IMO. |
I'm usually a proponent for going for it on 4th and short, but with a chance to create a 21 point lead on a team that hasn't yet scored a TD, you gotta think that a FG (well within Forbath's comfort zone) is the right call. Subsequent events have made this a moot point, thankfully. I was hoping for an edifying response from the first person to respond to my post, I can only presume that it must be hard to post with one's foot in one's mouth. |
We have 30+ points. Thus making your crying pointless. |
Crying? My face is quite dry, sir. Please don't persist in thinking that your opinion of my posts on a message board makes any impact on either my thoughts or my future actions. |
 if your going to be consistently negative. Don't cry when it's pointed out. |
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cowboykillerzRGiii
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| THERE'S the refs... Smfh |
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absinthe1023
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Chris Luva Luva wrote: | | absinthe1023 wrote: | | Chris Luva Luva wrote: | | absinthe1023 wrote: | | Irn-Bru wrote: | | absinthe1023 wrote: | | Chris Luva Luva wrote: | | absinthe1023 wrote: | | D-U-M dumb. |
This post? Yes I agree. |
Easy tiger, the quote is from a movie. I wanted to see a FG attempt and a potential 21 pt lead. What's wrong with that? |
Being aggressive in that situation is, statistically, the better decision. I liked it as a call even though it didn't work out for us.
In fact I've really liked the Shanahan's tolerance for risk on 4th downs this year. One area where we are on the cutting edge, IMO. |
I'm usually a proponent for going for it on 4th and short, but with a chance to create a 21 point lead on a team that hasn't yet scored a TD, you gotta think that a FG (well within Forbath's comfort zone) is the right call. Subsequent events have made this a moot point, thankfully. I was hoping for an edifying response from the first person to respond to my post, I can only presume that it must be hard to post with one's foot in one's mouth. |
We have 30+ points. Thus making your crying pointless. |
Crying? My face is quite dry, sir. Please don't persist in thinking that your opinion of my posts on a message board makes any impact on either my thoughts or my future actions. |
if your going to be consistently negative. Don't cry when it's pointed out. |
There's that word again. Here's the thing: you post what you want, I post what I want, and as long as we both stay within the rules, no problem. My only objection (and I won't bother to raise it again), is your unnecessary use of a bait-word as a well-worn and shoddy attempt to get around the "attack the post, not the poster" dictum upon which the site is governed. |
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capitaldefense
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| I am enjoying a Redskins victory. A Redskin team destroying Philly, no matter who is at QB. I want another defensive stop and another TD. Please! |
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absinthe1023
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| It really is great to watch the wheels completely come off another team (especially a division rival) for once. |
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Burgundy&Wha?
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Running downhill now. |
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absinthe1023
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Cowboys lead. I actually like them winning today (if they hang on), maybe they'll have a bit of a false sense of security before T-Day. |
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