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The Hogster
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| Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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You people don't know what you're talking about. If Banks "sucked" was "cooked" or couldn't "produce" Mike Shanahan would move on.
One thing Mike has shown the ability to is to admit a mistake and cut his losses. You people are not reasonable with your expectations for returners. Just because you see them as highlights every week, doesn't mean that the same guy does it every week.
If you do some simple research, you'll see that Devin Hester, the GOAT in terms of returns, has gone a span of 2 seasons without breaking one.
This is the same biased blather we hear in the offseason. How many times does Mike S have to tell you to chill out.
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riggofan
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| Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| The Hogster wrote: | | You people don't know what you're talking about. If Banks "sucked" was "cooked" or couldn't "produce" Mike Shanahan would move on. |
Good grief you sure have a bone for Banks!!! hah.
I sort of agree with what you're saying though, Hogster. I don't know what Shanahan thinks of Banks. But if we had a better option available at that position, I'm sure he wouldn't hesitate to use it. |
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DarthMonk
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| The Hogster wrote: | | The same logic applies to Banks as Gano. |
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Countertrey
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| The Hogster wrote: | You people don't know what you're talking about. If Banks "sucked" was "cooked" or couldn't "produce" Mike Shanahan would move on.
One thing Mike has shown the ability to is to admit a mistake and cut his losses. You people are not reasonable with your expectations for returners. Just because you see them as highlights every week, doesn't mean that the same guy does it every week.
If you do some simple research, you'll see that Devin Hester, the GOAT in terms of returns, has gone a span of 2 seasons without breaking one.
This is the same biased blather we hear in the offseason. How many times does Mike S have to tell you to chill out.
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... unless, of course, Banks continued presence is nothing more than Shanahan simply acknowledging that he's not going to improve the situation by moving on at this point in the season... there's simply not anyone out there that would offer any improvement in performance... so... no point in cutting now.
Banks appears to have gone the route of Antwan Randal-el... a master of indecision and bad decision, giving up any advantage that his speed gives him... . but... it's too late to change now.
And, regarding our "expectations for returners"... umm... we don't need him to "consistently break one". We just need him to be consistently effective. We recognize that when we see it.
B Mitch... D Green... M. Nelms. R. Cartright (much slower, but offered consistently solid field position)... our expectations are not excessive... But, we do know what a good returner looks like. SMH |
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The Hogster
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| Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Countertrey wrote: | | The Hogster wrote: | You people don't know what you're talking about. If Banks "sucked" was "cooked" or couldn't "produce" Mike Shanahan would move on.
One thing Mike has shown the ability to is to admit a mistake and cut his losses. You people are not reasonable with your expectations for returners. Just because you see them as highlights every week, doesn't mean that the same guy does it every week.
If you do some simple research, you'll see that Devin Hester, the GOAT in terms of returns, has gone a span of 2 seasons without breaking one.
This is the same biased blather we hear in the offseason. How many times does Mike S have to tell you to chill out.
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... unless, of course, Banks continued presence is nothing more than Shanahan simply acknowledging that he's not going to improve the situation by moving on at this point in the season... there's simply not anyone out there that would offer any improvement in performance... so... no point in cutting now.
Banks appears to have gone the route of Antwan Randal-el... a master of indecision and bad decision, giving up any advantage that his speed gives him... . but... it's too late to change now.
And, regarding our "expectations for returners"... umm... we don't need him to "consistently break one". We just need him to be consistently effective. We recognize that when we see it.
B Mitch... D Green... M. Nelms. R. Cartright (much slower, but offered consistently solid field position)... our expectations are not excessive... But, we do know what a good returner looks like. SMH |
Obviously not. B Mitch is HOF worthy. D Green is in the HOF and did it in spots. R Cartwright was a consistent KO returner when Kickoffs actually got returned.
The new rules change the game for KOs. As a punt returner, Banks has proven what he's capable of. He has shown it. Even still, you people hate on him during the season and in the offseason. It undermines your argument against him when it seems like you jump at the chance to want him gone. |
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DarthMonk
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| Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| The Hogster wrote: | | Countertrey wrote: | | The Hogster wrote: | You people don't know what you're talking about. If Banks "sucked" was "cooked" or couldn't "produce" Mike Shanahan would move on.
One thing Mike has shown the ability to is to admit a mistake and cut his losses. You people are not reasonable with your expectations for returners. Just because you see them as highlights every week, doesn't mean that the same guy does it every week.
If you do some simple research, you'll see that Devin Hester, the GOAT in terms of returns, has gone a span of 2 seasons without breaking one.
This is the same biased blather we hear in the offseason. How many times does Mike S have to tell you to chill out.
SMH |
... unless, of course, Banks continued presence is nothing more than Shanahan simply acknowledging that he's not going to improve the situation by moving on at this point in the season... there's simply not anyone out there that would offer any improvement in performance... so... no point in cutting now.
Banks appears to have gone the route of Antwan Randal-el... a master of indecision and bad decision, giving up any advantage that his speed gives him... . but... it's too late to change now.
And, regarding our "expectations for returners"... umm... we don't need him to "consistently break one". We just need him to be consistently effective. We recognize that when we see it.
B Mitch... D Green... M. Nelms. R. Cartright (much slower, but offered consistently solid field position)... our expectations are not excessive... But, we do know what a good returner looks like. SMH |
Obviously not. B Mitch is HOF worthy. D Green is in the HOF and did it in spots. R Cartwright was a consistent KO returner when Kickoffs actually got returned.
The new rules change the game for KOs. As a punt returner, Banks has proven what he's capable of. He has shown it. Even still, you people hate on him during the season and in the offseason. It undermines your argument against him when it seems like you jump at the chance to want him gone. |
I love him. I think he's been playing very poorly pretty much all season. He fumbles way too much. If he plays I hope he breaks one. I don't think he should be playing ... especially on kickoffs ... unless he can start making better decisions in the end zone.
He is not a good WR. |
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ATX_Skins
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| Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Hate is a strong word.
I hate Brandon Banks. |
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The Hogster
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DarthMonk
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For those with unconditional hard-on:
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SkinsJock
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Brandon Banks has helped this team ..... in the past
I hope he can make some plays in the games coming up
I'm sure many here will agree that there is ZERO chance that Banks is playing here next season
I'll even add - Banks is not here next season, no matter what he does in the next 4 games
Banks has been a help but he's not getting a roster spot next season |
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DaSkinz Baby
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:27 am Post subject: |
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| The Hogster wrote: | You people don't know what you're talking about. If Banks "sucked" was "cooked" or couldn't "produce" Mike Shanahan would move on.
One thing Mike has shown the ability to is to admit a mistake and cut his losses. You people are not reasonable with your expectations for returners. Just because you see them as highlights every week, doesn't mean that the same guy does it every week.
If you do some simple research, you'll see that Devin Hester, the GOAT in terms of returns, has gone a span of 2 seasons without breaking one.
This is the same biased blather we hear in the offseason. How many times does Mike S have to tell you to chill out.
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Spot on, also people should ask what if we have better special teams. It's sort of hard to make any advances when you have NO BLOCKING. I bet you put Brandon Banks on the Jet's ST's and he is a beast. I am sure he is tired of getting crushed by bigger guys cause no one can block........ |
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FLWSkin
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| So when Robinson gets the ball and runs straight ahead and we get yards there is blocking. When Paul runs the ball straight ahead and gets yards there is blocking. When Banks gets the ball, dances around, runs sideways and gets tackled then there is no blocking. OK. |
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The Hogster
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Right. But, of course folks who've never played the game will blame poor returns on the returner. Funny how the same people often bend over backwards to blame the blocking for Graham Gano's blocks/misses. But, if we can't get any positive returns, it's all Brandon's fault.
Totally ridiculous. Thank goodness, fans don't run or coach teams. Shanahan knows what he's doing. That's why Banks is our returner.
| Quote: | Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan said the minimal returns aren’t entirely Banks’s fault. Instead, the coach says, there are a number of other factors to take into account.
“It all depends on the punts and the coverage,” |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2012/10/20/brandon-banks-still-waiting-for-breakout-in-returns-game/
Let's just be real. Ever since Banks got stabbed, people started treating him like a thug. There's no real basis for all of this hate every offseason and whenever he hasn't scored. If we had better options, he'd be gone. Period. Shanahan has proven that. |
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SkinsJock
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:48 am Post subject: |
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speaking for myself - Brandon Banks has been a help here ...
but that is over after this season - I do not mean that as a knock on what he's done - I just do not see him helping this team next season
there will be other players that are not a part of things here also - their ability to contribute is over |
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FLWSkin
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| I go by the eye test. Banks dances and does nothing. The other guys run straight ahead and get some yards. Kinda simple. |
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