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SkinsJock
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:49 am Post subject: |
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THIS just in - this is a team game - all these guys areall very talented but they also ALL need players around them in order to succeed
Teams succeed because of players playing together not because of individual performances
Coaches & FOs have to decide who best suits their schemes and the other players they have - sometimes it works out and sometimes it does not
Thinking that a player that leaves a team and does well might have had the same success on the team he left is just STUPID - this shows no appreciation for the intricacies and intangibles of this game
I'm not a blind homer (as many think) about Mike & Bruce .... I do think they're trying to put the best 53 on the roster and I do think their plan will continue to make this franchise better - we're not good yet but we're getting there
To me, Cundiff is not better than Gano or Rackers - Mike maybe wrong, but then again ....  |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:55 am Post subject: |
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| Chris Luva Luva wrote: | | markshark84 wrote: | Not a good move at all. I see a David Akers type thing happening with Gano.
This just makes no sense. Cut a younger, better kicker for a lesser, older one...... |
1. I think the Akers thing is a bit much...
2. Gano is better from long distance, Cundiff is better from mid-range/kick offs. So "better" is subjective.
Everyone lost their mind when we cut Gafney... FYI, the Patriots just cut him too, he didn't even last to the final round of cuts.
Let's not overreact. |
"everybody lost their mind when we cut Gafney"?????? what are you talking about? who's everybody? I hope not. Gaffney was before a redskin, as a redskin, and after a redskin the very definition of mediocre.
i would hope that no one would have cared either way if he stayed or went.
as for the kicker change, i would think its a bad decision but we'll see. |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Scroll to the troll.
Scroll to the troll.
SCROLL TO THE TROLL! |
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DarthMonk
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Almost forgot:
Graham Gano
School: Florida State
Position: K
Career Punting: 147 Punts, 6189 Yds, 42.1 Avg
We just lost a really good backup punter too.
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The Hogster
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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| I wanted Gano cut at the end of last season. He sucks. This is a good move. |
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tribeofjudah
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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| The Hogster wrote: | | I wanted Gano cut at the end of last season. He sucks. This is a good move. |
but....but.....but....they say he has BIG legs???? is that from doing all those squats???
WhatEV........that's why we are all fans and NOT coaches. I wish GG good luck in his NFL career.
I hear the Steelers aren't totally sold on Swishy....they can take Gano now. |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm hoping he doesn't get picked up (sorry Graham), so that we can re-sign him if the Cundiff experiment goes awry. |
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The Hogster
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| tribeofjudah wrote: | | The Hogster wrote: | | I wanted Gano cut at the end of last season. He sucks. This is a good move. |
but....but.....but....they say he has BIG legs???? is that from doing all those squats???
WhatEV........that's why we are all fans and NOT coaches. I wish GG good luck in his NFL career.
I hear the Steelers aren't totally sold on Swishy....they can take Gano now. |
The funny thing is how fans, who aren't in practice, can say this is a dumb move when they haven't seen what this guy is doing in practices. He's been awful two years in a row. All I hear are excuses for him. He had 5 blocks last year, but the year prior he was still the worst kicker in the league. He's only made 74% of his kicks since becoming a Redskin. He's also been a Shankapotamus & a choke artist. It was time for him to go. |
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skinsfan#33
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| emoses14 wrote: | Not at all jazzed about signing Cundiff and cutting Gano. This has to be a competition signing for this last week or game. Gano is better than Cundiff in every possible way other than extra points (Gano had one miss, Cundiff had none).
THAT INCLUDING 5 BLOCKS THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH GANO!!!!
This is insane if true. |
The extra point was blocked too. AND Gano had two more kicks that were blocked that still went through!
The FG blocking team was just historically bad last year! |
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skinsfan#33
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| The Hogster wrote: | | I wanted Gano cut at the end of last season. He sucks. This is a good move. |
Come on Hogster. Normally you are pretty rational about things, but this is a major step back words if you are going off last years parformance!
Gano was 31 of 41 with 5 blocks or 76%
Cundiff was 28 of 37 with no blocks or 76%
Gano was 29 of 34 on kicks that weren't blocked or 85% and he was 2 for 7 on kicks that were blocked (yes, you read that right).
So compared to Cundiff he was 9% better on kicks that weren't blocked. The Ravens didn't allow any of Cundiff's kicks to get blocked, but Gano actually made 2 out of the 7 kicks that were blocked; not too bad!
Not blaming a kicker for a blocked kick that was the fault of the blocking unit is not making an excuse it is being rational and looking at the situation realistically!
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Irn-Bru
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| skinsfan#33 wrote: | | Not blaming a kicker for a blocked kick that was the fault of the blocking unit is not making an excuse it is being rational and looking at the situation realistically! |
You should be warned up front: it's no use. |
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The Hogster
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| skinsfan#33 wrote: | | The Hogster wrote: | | I wanted Gano cut at the end of last season. He sucks. This is a good move. |
Come on Hogster. Normally you are pretty rational about things, but this is a major step back words if you are going off last years parformance!
Gano was 31 of 41 with 5 blocks or 76%
Cundiff was 28 of 37 with no blocks or 76%
Gano was 29 of 34 on kicks that were blocked or 85% and he was 2 for 7 on kicks that were blocked (yes, you read that right).
So compared to Cundiff he was 9% better on kicks that weren't blocked. The Ravens didn't allow any of Cundiff's kicks to get blocked, but Gano actually made 2 out of the 7 kicks that were blocked; not too bad!
Not blaming a kicker for a blocked kick that was the fault of the blocking unit is not making an excuse it is being rational and looking at the situation realistically! |
Check his 2010 stats. He was still dead last without the blocks. But I guess we know better than experienced coaches who have watched him in games and in practice. Even still, kickers are judged by their ability to perform under pressure. And, Gano doesn't. |
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ATX_Skins
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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It's a kicker, whats the big deal?
Instead of looking at his stats, which are almost identical to Cundiff's (except that pro bowl thing...) explain what he has done to earn the right to stay.
Look, we are a sub .500 team. At this point whatever changes the coaches make I'm all for. |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| skinsfan#33 wrote: | | Gano was 29 of 34 on kicks that were blocked or 85% and he was 2 for 7 on kicks that were blocked (yes, you read that right). |
But did you write it right?  |
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skinsfan#33
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| ATX_Skins wrote: | It's a kicker, whats the big deal?
Instead of looking at his stats, which are almost identical to Cundiff's (except that pro bowl thing...) explain what he has done to earn the right to stay.
Look, we are a sub .500 team. At this point whatever changes the coaches make I'm all for. |
Nevermind that better kicking could have won us a couple of games, maybe in both Dallas games. And trading in a young kicker (coming off a much better season (86% of makable kicks) for a vet with nearly identicle career stats (coming off an average year for him - 76%) is just not smart. |
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