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| Will RGIII start the opener? |
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The Hogster
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Not starting RG3 would be like buying a Lamborghini Aventador and continuing to drive your 98 Nissan Sentra because you don't want to get the Lambo dirty. |
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DarthMonk
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The question is WILL he start the opener. My prediction is YES. Think about it. We could go here
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The Hogster
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I don't know man. RG3Ints has been working out. Says he can run a 4.3 too. He can run hard for 3 seconds before getting tired.
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KazooSkinsFan
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| The Hogster wrote: | | Not starting RG3 would be like buying a Lamborghini Aventador and continuing to drive your 98 Nissan Sentra because you don't want to get the Lambo dirty. |
Rookies all progress at different paces. The Red Wings and Redskins are my favorite teams in pro sports and the Red Wings have down getting players ready to play before they play and using it to make them successful. If he's ready on opening day, then sure, let's start him. But if he's not, there is no reason to rush it. He could start game 2, game 8, or game one year two and it's fine. The goal this year is to develop him. Starting only if it serves that objective. |
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The Hogster
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| KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | The Hogster wrote: | | Not starting RG3 would be like buying a Lamborghini Aventador and continuing to drive your 98 Nissan Sentra because you don't want to get the Lambo dirty. |
Rookies all progress at different paces. The Red Wings and Redskins are my favorite teams in pro sports and the Red Wings have down getting players ready to play before they play and using it to make them successful. If he's ready on opening day, then sure, let's start him. But if he's not, there is no reason to rush it. He could start game 2, game 8, or game one year two and it's fine. The goal this year is to develop him. Starting only if it serves that objective. |
Becoming a great QB is a task for all QBs. But, would you want to leave RG's athleticism on the bench for a season? Cam Newton will likely be a better QB next season, but he did break rookie rushing and passing records last season helping that team from somewhere in the 30s to Top 10 offensively. RG is going to be most explosive in his early years. I say take advantage of that asset.
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KazooSkinsFan
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| The Hogster wrote: | | KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | The Hogster wrote: | | Not starting RG3 would be like buying a Lamborghini Aventador and continuing to drive your 98 Nissan Sentra because you don't want to get the Lambo dirty. |
Rookies all progress at different paces. The Red Wings and Redskins are my favorite teams in pro sports and the Red Wings have down getting players ready to play before they play and using it to make them successful. If he's ready on opening day, then sure, let's start him. But if he's not, there is no reason to rush it. He could start game 2, game 8, or game one year two and it's fine. The goal this year is to develop him. Starting only if it serves that objective. |
Becoming a great QB is a task for all QBs. But, would you want to leave RG's athleticism on the bench for a season? Cam Newton will likely be a better QB next season, but he did break rookie rushing and passing records last season helping that team from somewhere in the 30s to Top 10 offensively. RG is going to be most explosive in his early years. I say take advantage of that asset. |
I said start him if he's ready, don't start him if he's not. So to your question, "would you want to leave RG's athleticism on the bench for a season?" If he's not ready, then yes, I would. And it's not a question of game 1 the first year or the second year. If he's not ready, he can play in situations and he can start whenever he is ready. If we have Grossman or a Journeyman, I can't see they're going to keep him on the bench when he's ready. |
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KazooSkinsFan
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I didn't vote because my answer wasn't represented. If he's ready, start him. If he's not, don't. |
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The Hogster
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | The Hogster wrote: | | KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | The Hogster wrote: | | Not starting RG3 would be like buying a Lamborghini Aventador and continuing to drive your 98 Nissan Sentra because you don't want to get the Lambo dirty. |
Rookies all progress at different paces. The Red Wings and Redskins are my favorite teams in pro sports and the Red Wings have down getting players ready to play before they play and using it to make them successful. If he's ready on opening day, then sure, let's start him. But if he's not, there is no reason to rush it. He could start game 2, game 8, or game one year two and it's fine. The goal this year is to develop him. Starting only if it serves that objective. |
Becoming a great QB is a task for all QBs. But, would you want to leave RG's athleticism on the bench for a season? Cam Newton will likely be a better QB next season, but he did break rookie rushing and passing records last season helping that team from somewhere in the 30s to Top 10 offensively. RG is going to be most explosive in his early years. I say take advantage of that asset. |
I said start him if he's ready, don't start him if he's not. So to your question, "would you want to leave RG's athleticism on the bench for a season?" If he's not ready, then yes, I would. And it's not a question of game 1 the first year or the second year. If he's not ready, he can play in situations and he can start whenever he is ready. If we have Grossman or a Journeyman, I can't see they're going to keep him on the bench when he's ready. |
I hear you. What I'm saying is if RG3 is not "ready" or doesn't "know the offense" by week 1, that's Kyle's fault. I get tired of coaches overcomplicating things and giving up precious opportunities along the way. The Panthers tailored their offense to Newton. Same with the Broncos. They won games while their QB got experience. I hope Kyle doesn't think he's a mad scientist and sit RG3 while he tries to re-program him with his Super Duper Scheme.
A good coordinator can tailor his offense to fit the skills of the players. Out of the gate, RG3 has skills that can damage defenses. I hope Kyle gets him ready by tweaking what we do to maximize his skills. I hope Kyle doesn't try to get RG3 to play just like Matt Schuabb or Rex Grossman because that would be a waste to me. |
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Skins Fan in Indy
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| Last year all we heard was who will start Rex or Beck....Rex or Beck. Then we heard when will they pull Rex...When will they pull Rex. Then we heard when will they pull Beck...When will they pull Beck. There should be no question and no doubt from the first day of training camp!. I really don't want to hear every minute of everyday When will they start RGIII....When will they start RGIII. |
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Countertrey
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The issue is, primarily, how quickly can he adjust to NFL speed. The common theme when asking rooks about the biggest difference between college and the pros is not "scheme" or "reads"... it's the speed with which things happen.
The question is NOT "how long will it take for RG3 to adjust to NFL speed?", but "can the OL protect him adequately while he adjusts to NFL speed?" If the answer to the second question is "Yes", then start him immediately, and let him make his mistakes. He is mentally very tough... a few late reads and poor decisions are not going to hurt him... but having his head taken off by a hit from the blind side, will... |
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The Hogster
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Countertrey wrote: | The issue is, primarily, how quickly can he adjust to NFL speed. The common theme when asking rooks about the biggest difference between college and the pros is not "scheme" or "reads"... it's the speed with which things happen.
The question is NOT "how long will it take for RG3 to adjust to NFL speed?", but "can the OL protect him adequately while he adjusts to NFL speed?" If the answer to the second question is "Yes", then start him immediately, and let him make his mistakes. He is mentally very tough... a few late reads and poor decisions are not going to hurt him... but having his head taken off by a hit from the blind side, will... |
Exactly. If we're going to turn the ball over 3 times a game (Rex) then we might as well have RG learning as he goes.
I also think that RG will make our line look a lot better than it was. Beck took something like 7 or 8 sacks against the Bills, and every coach on the radio said that most of those were him holding the ball too long. Rex is about as mobile as a turtle. So, our line may not be as bad as we think.
We need a RT for sure and an upgrade at LG for sure. If we can land Nicks or Grubbs, and either get Brown healthy, or land a RT once the cap casualties hit the market, then I say our line will be good enough for a guy like RG.
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CanesSkins26
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | The Hogster wrote: | | KazooSkinsFan wrote: | | The Hogster wrote: | | Not starting RG3 would be like buying a Lamborghini Aventador and continuing to drive your 98 Nissan Sentra because you don't want to get the Lambo dirty. |
Rookies all progress at different paces. The Red Wings and Redskins are my favorite teams in pro sports and the Red Wings have down getting players ready to play before they play and using it to make them successful. If he's ready on opening day, then sure, let's start him. But if he's not, there is no reason to rush it. He could start game 2, game 8, or game one year two and it's fine. The goal this year is to develop him. Starting only if it serves that objective. |
Becoming a great QB is a task for all QBs. But, would you want to leave RG's athleticism on the bench for a season? Cam Newton will likely be a better QB next season, but he did break rookie rushing and passing records last season helping that team from somewhere in the 30s to Top 10 offensively. RG is going to be most explosive in his early years. I say take advantage of that asset. |
I said start him if he's ready, don't start him if he's not. So to your question, "would you want to leave RG's athleticism on the bench for a season?" If he's not ready, then yes, I would. And it's not a question of game 1 the first year or the second year. If he's not ready, he can play in situations and he can start whenever he is ready. If we have Grossman or a Journeyman, I can't see they're going to keep him on the bench when he's ready. |
You don't trade multiple first rounders and draft a player #2 overall that you don't think is ready to start early on. Cam, Bradford, Stafford, Sanchez, Matt Ryan...the last five qbs drafted top 5 and all of them started Day 1. The last top 5 qb not to start was JaMarcuss Russell and he had a protracted holdout. |
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Countertrey
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My only concern... can RG3 be protected while he adapts to NFL speed...
This kid will be able to start day 1...
Word is, he performed like this in the Redskins interview... that committed the FO to get this trade done.
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The Hogster
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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I'm ready for an OTA, Training Camp. Anything. Let's go! |
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Irn-Bru
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| CanesSkins26 wrote: | | You don't trade multiple first rounders and draft a player #2 overall that you don't think is ready to start early on. Cam, Bradford, Stafford, Sanchez, Matt Ryan...the last five qbs drafted top 5 and all of them started Day 1. The last top 5 qb not to start was JaMarcuss Russell and he had a protracted holdout. |
And with the CBA there is zero chance of a holdout. (Really, RGIII shouldn't even hire an agent . . . just a lawyer to read over the contract and make sure there isn't any funny business.)
I really can't see anyone else but RGIII starting on day one, unless we acquire another FA QB before then. But that move would puzzle me, I have to admit. |
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