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Kilmer72
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irn-Bru wrote:
1niksder wrote:
We could offer them Jim Hasslet and not part with the 1st next year.... they'll be looking for a DC soon


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It's sad isn't Irn? Jim isn't too bad but he is no where near Greg Williams. Still, I am starting to believe in Jim. Jim's game plans are awesome but he doesn't adjust on the fly. Wish he could and maybe he will do better this year.
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kilmer72 wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:
1niksder wrote:
We could offer them Jim Hasslet and not part with the 1st next year.... they'll be looking for a DC soon


Low Blow



It's sad isn't Irn? Jim isn't too bad but he is no where near Greg Williams. Still, I am starting to believe in Jim. Jim's game plans are awesome but he doesn't adjust on the fly. Wish he could and maybe he will do better this year.


If he drops the zero blitz scheme
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kilmer72 wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:
1niksder wrote:
We could offer them Jim Hasslet and not part with the 1st next year.... they'll be looking for a DC soon


Low Blow



It's sad isn't Irn? Jim isn't too bad but he is no where near Greg Williams. Still, I am starting to believe in Jim. Jim's game plans are awesome but he doesn't adjust on the fly. Wish he could and maybe he will do better this year.


This season gave me confidence in Jim. His scheme at least started to look like it can work. Sad
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Countertrey
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1niksder wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:
1niksder wrote:
We could offer them Jim Hasslet and not part with the 1st next year.... they'll be looking for a DC soon


Low Blow



It's sad isn't Irn? Jim isn't too bad but he is no where near Greg Williams. Still, I am starting to believe in Jim. Jim's game plans are awesome but he doesn't adjust on the fly. Wish he could and maybe he will do better this year.


If he drops the zero blitz scheme


The zero blitz scheme is fine... but you need two corners that can stick like glue in coverage when you call it... and someone you can rely on to pick up the safety valve... Hall, for example, should NEVER be on the field in a zero blitz... You need a corner there with the discipline to keep his eyes out of the backfield.
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Countertrey wrote:
1niksder wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:
1niksder wrote:
We could offer them Jim Hasslet and not part with the 1st next year.... they'll be looking for a DC soon


Low Blow



It's sad isn't Irn? Jim isn't too bad but he is no where near Greg Williams. Still, I am starting to believe in Jim. Jim's game plans are awesome but he doesn't adjust on the fly. Wish he could and maybe he will do better this year.


If he drops the zero blitz scheme


The zero blitz scheme is fine... but you need two corners that can stick like glue in coverage when you call it... and someone you can rely on to pick up the safety valve... Hall, for example, should NEVER be on the field in a zero blitz... You need a corner there with the discipline to keep his eyes out of the backfield.


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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the zero blitz, if i recall correctly, yielded some great results for us at times--- the problem is knowing when to use it. the call in the first Cowboys game was inexcusable; it's a gamble play that you have no reason to make when you have the lead and you've got them in 3rd and 21 or whatever it was.
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

die cowboys die wrote:
the zero blitz, if i recall correctly, yielded some great results for us at times--- the problem is knowing when to use it. the call in the first Cowboys game was inexcusable; it's a gamble play that you have no reason to make when you have the lead and you've got them in 3rd and 21 or whatever it was.


Oh God, don't remind me of that play.... I feel sick!!!

I hope that's a lesson learnt right there.
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1niksder wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
1niksder wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:
1niksder wrote:
We could offer them Jim Hasslet and not part with the 1st next year.... they'll be looking for a DC soon


Low Blow



It's sad isn't Irn? Jim isn't too bad but he is no where near Greg Williams. Still, I am starting to believe in Jim. Jim's game plans are awesome but he doesn't adjust on the fly. Wish he could and maybe he will do better this year.


If he drops the zero blitz scheme


The zero blitz scheme is fine... but you need two corners that can stick like glue in coverage when you call it... and someone you can rely on to pick up the safety valve... Hall, for example, should NEVER be on the field in a zero blitz... You need a corner there with the discipline to keep his eyes out of the backfield.


+1


I don't care who you got at corner, if the QB gets enough time to make accurate throw the WR will be open (even if he is covered).

What do I mean by that? Since there is no safety help, all the QB has to do is read what side the CB is playing and throw the ball to the other side. Easy completion!

The zero blitz isn't about coverage it is about pass rush. You can't cover well enough to make it work if the QB gets any protection at all. The scene is a gamble. You're gambling that your pass rush will get there brite the qb can get a well thrown ball off. Your CB is just there to pick a poorly thrown ball, not to stop a well thrown ball, because there is no way for him to stop a well thrown ball!

That its what happen to Hall ob that play against the Cowgirls. Homo bought sone time and threw the ball to the opposite side of where Hall was and the WR ran to the ball. If you have a safety back to help, he comes up with the pick!
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked are we a little off topic here??? Rolling Eyes
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

die cowboys die wrote:
the zero blitz, if i recall correctly, yielded some great results for us at times--- the problem is knowing when to use it. the call in the first Cowboys game was inexcusable; it's a gamble play that you have no reason to make when you have the lead and you've got them in 3rd and 21 or whatever it was.


This call, at that time, was actually fine... it did everything it was supposed to do, with one exception... HALL. A disciplined corner, who is on his coverage, and NOT LOOKING INTO THE FREAKING BACKFIELD OR BITING ON A WEAK HEAD FAKE, knocks that very weak pass down.
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing you've gotta love it Laughing

does anyone really care Rolling Eyes
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chiefhog44
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me float this out there. If Gregg (second g stand for girl tits) Williams gets a year or two suspension, and we need to sweeten the deal to get RG3, how about throwing in Raheem Morris as part of the trade? Or Haslett and promote Morris to our DC?
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SkinsJock wrote:
Shocked are we a little off topic here??? Rolling Eyes


Thread GOT JACKED....!!!
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

muwahahahahaha!
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just spoke to my best friend who just had dinner with Matt Baldwin. For those that don't know him, he works with Bob LaMonte at Professional Sports Representation inc, who are the agents for Pat Shurmur, Mike Holmgren, Tom Heckert, Brad Childress, Mark Whipple etc. seeing a trend here?????? These dudes are tied in with the Browns BIG TIME.

Anyway, he told my buddy the Browns are ALL IN for RG3. The 22nd pick is a smoke screen and are prepared to offer much more. Not trying to stir the pot, just relaying what I'm hearing from some guys on the inside.

I hope we have the ammo because I think RG3 is the one we need to aquire.
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