» Why run from 21

frankcal20 · ^^^^^^^ Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 8965

I've been thinking about why the Redskins are working so hard to get out of the 21st pick. The other thing that I have noticed is that the players the Redskins are pursuing, reportedly, are players who are closer to the decline that the peak of their professional career. Most of these players are also requesting a trade because of issues with their contract and wanting more money. This is concerning to me. I have heard all offseason that Vinny wants young in expensive players on this team to groom for the future.

Chad Johnson, Roy Williams or Anquan Bolden is not either one. If the Skins want to go after a young guy who has had a few productive seasons and still on a rookie contract. We can offer him an extension but it will be far less than going after a big named guy like the above mentioned.

Let me know who you guys feel fits this mold. I was thinking a team like the Saints who have a number of good receivers may be open to taking our #1 for a guy like Marcus Colston - who I would love to have.

Another name that comes to mind that would not require a 1st round pick but could fill that need at WR is James Jones. He is 6-1 207 a 3rd round pick by GB in the 2007 draft. I think if we were to offer a 2nd or 3rd round pick for a guy like this, they just may bite. I watched a lot of GB last season and this guy made plays. In his rookie season, he made 47 catches for 676 yds and 2 TDs. Keep in mind he was the #3 receiver behind Donald Driver and Greg Jennings. The biggest number is his average yds per catch 14.4. Thats 1st downs people. We need that kind of guy in our offense. Get the first down. It can't always be Cooley.

I just see the Chargers getting a guy like Chris Chambers for in essence nothing.

If we can't get someone who has an upside, I don't want them.

Just my rant on this area.

Irn-Bru · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:00 am Post subject:

You mean a player like Brandon Lloyd or Antwaan Randle El? Wink

frankcal20 · ^^^^^^^ Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 8965

No. I'm just saying that I wish that we could actually trade for someone with an upside not a downside. Get someone young and cheap who has shown in the NFL he can make plays. I don't thing thats too hard.

KazooSkinsFan · kazoo Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 10021 Location: Kazmania

frankcal20 · ^^^^^^^ Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 8965

Someone who has several of those kind of guys. AZ had that two years ago, GB has that now. They also have a guy named Glenn Martinez who is like 6'5 and a ball hawk. He played in NFL Europe for Calgary I believe. But thats where proper player evaluation comes into play. Check out a guy to see if he has good hands, good ball awareness and accept that he is not perfect. Somethings can be coached up like precise route running and proper hand technique to get off press coverage but you can't teach heart and hard work ethic. You can't teach desire. If you can find a guy like that, you may just find a diamond.

Fios · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:26 am Post subject:

Mursilis · mursilis Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 2476

frankcal20 · ^^^^^^^ Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 8965

I just think it would be better to pick up a guy who is like 24 and still in his rookie contract. That would protect us in the event that if the player doesn't work out, we are not stuck.

I did a poor job of explaining what I want. Well, I want a proven guy but as you've pointed out, that would never happen but where are the guys where a coach "see's something." He can't get on the field outside of Special Teams or injury b/c of other player.

Do I make any sense here? The guys I mentioned above, does that hit home with anyone or make you think of anyone else?

HEROHAMO · ||| Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 4027 Location: SANTA ANA,CA

I have said this before but I will say it again.

The team a player goes to has alot to do with how a player develops. What if Jerry Rice were drafted by the Detroit Lions? Lets say he befriends a thug on the team and started taking drugs? History may be different today?

In the mid 90s the Skins sucked. We drafted Michael Westbrook. I bet he would have been a star if drafted by the Packers or Niners in the mid 90s.

So I will be happy with a good character , talented player at no. 21. I dont see how any team would let go of a young talented player for cheap?

I rather our team take its chances with a draft pick and breed our own champions. Hopefully.

VetSkinsFan · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject:

The big deal at #21 from what I've been reading is that there's no guarantee that the available draft prospects are going to be worth a #21 pick. A few different articles have pointed out, such as GSPODS got crucified a coupla weeks ago for, was that there is NOT 31 people agreed upon as a 1st round pick. Depending on who you believe, there's low to mid twenties. Yes, yes, I know, we all have our little opinions. I'm not here to compare egos. If we trade down and get maybe an addition 2nd and 3rd(or 4th) to bolster our mid draft might, then it might be in our best interest. It's all a gamble ......

Fios · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject:

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Irn-Bru · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject:

frankcal20 · ^^^^^^^ Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 8965

You and I are not running the front office. I can't say that Lloyd or ARE are cheap. We paid too much for Lloyd and I said that to begin with. He was known for making spectacular catches but that was about it.

As for trading our 21 for a pick higher in the draft or giving a team our 21 plus next years 1st would in essence guarantee that they find a stud.

I'm not sure who heard the stats that were presented on XXX radio today by Kevin Sheean (?) but they said that 50% of all WR's drafted in the 1st round have attended a pro bowl in the last 10 years. Well, I would take my chances with our own pick in stead of giving up two first rounders and possibly getting something like Lloyd.