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Postby SkinsJock » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:41 am

this article about AP's knee, the R&R, the great season only make the case even stronger for RG3

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/pete- ... dible-2013

AP's injury was devastating and worse than RG3 ...

Dr Andrews did both operations and had the added benefit of time/experience and stem cell use when operating on RG3's knee

I don't doubt that AP has incredible desire to be great but I doubt that RG3's desire to be great is any less

RG3 has had olympic training and I'm sure his preparation and rehab has incorporated many facets of that as well

We are going to see RG3 playing on a stronger knee than he had at the beginning of last season - with the same desire to be great and a whole year's experience
I'm sure Kyle is going to take full advantage of all that :lol:
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Postby 1niksder » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:41 am

Chris Russell of ESPN 980, citing a source who is “very involved on the medical side”, reported on Twitter “every test they give him, every path they set - he completely smashes it. They are astonished so far.”

The same source also said that there has not yet been a time or location set for the examination that will determine whether or not the knee is ready for the rigors of training camp, which starts for the Redskins on July 25 in Richmond. Bruce Allen previously said that the physical would take place on the eve of training camp but it could happen sooner than that.
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Postby SkinsJock » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:33 pm

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Chris Russell of ESPN 980, citing a source who is “very involved on the medical side”, reported on Twitter “every test they give him, every path they set - he completely smashes it. They are astonished so far.”

The same source also said that there has not yet been a time or location set for the examination that will determine whether or not the knee is ready for the rigors of training camp, which starts for the Redskins on July 25 in Richmond. Bruce Allen previously said that the physical would take place on the eve of training camp but it could happen sooner than that.


thanks for that - i really think that despite all the indications that 'the knee' is ready for 'contact' - the Redskins (and RG3) are better served by not pushing things

RG3 is going to be better (physically) than he was at his best last season - the stem cells and being able to make the previous operation on this knee better have all been a good thing

we need this kid to be our QB for many years - no need to push it - he's going to push it anyway
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Postby Chris Luva Luva » Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:00 am

Have you guys seen the suspicions that RGIII didn't really tear the ACL? That he tore the LCL, which the graft was used for. The ACL was simply "destabilized" and had maintenance done on it to improve upon the previous surgery. That in addition to the stem cell treatments would help to explain his recovery.


If true, that is.
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Postby riggofan » Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:28 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Have you guys seen the suspicions that RGIII didn't really tear the ACL? That he tore the LCL, which the graft was used for. The ACL was simply "destabilized" and had maintenance done on it to improve upon the previous surgery. That in addition to the stem cell treatments would help to explain his recovery.


If true, that is.


I think its true that RGIII didn't completely tear his ACL at least according to his father:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ed-anyway/
“Robert’s ACL is intact, but not enough for his profession,” Griffin II said in a text message to Jim Corbett of USA Today. “You and I could be fine. But he is an athlete. So they will replace.”

The LCL (one of the lesser known CLs) was torn, and both were reconstructed by Andrews.

Griffin’s father said there was no evidence of the ACL tear on the initial MRIs, which might explain some of the early ambiguity about his condition.


I don't know if that meant the ACL repair was less severe than it might have been otherwise though. Anybody?

Its a good point though Chris.

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Postby Irn-Bru » Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:38 am

Oh wow, I hadn't heard about that before. Strange. But it would totally fit with the story. This guy is looking like he'll be 100% for the first preseason game, at the pace he's had.
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Postby Chris Luva Luva » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:27 pm

Irn-Bru wrote:Oh wow, I hadn't heard about that before. Strange. But it would totally fit with the story. This guy is looking like he'll be 100% for the first preseason game, at the pace he's had.



Look, I'm not trying to go all conspiracy theory on yall but... Let's have some fun. Who's the HC here? Shanahan. He's one of, if not the most secretive coach in the NFL. It would make perfect sense for him to instruct the franchise to not clear up the murkiness of the injury. Let the media run crazy and blow this out of proportion in effort to garner page hits. Don't deny it, don't acknowledge it directly.


Play Kirk all preseason long. Rex won't touch the field. White is...who know's what White is. But let Kirk play an entire half all preason long. Show him off to the league. Mix some Pat and Rex in for good measure. MAYBE give RGIII one series, maybe two. And then...


Trot a 95%-100% RGIII out onto the field in week 1.
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Postby 1niksder » Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:24 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:Oh wow, I hadn't heard about that before. Strange. But it would totally fit with the story. This guy is looking like he'll be 100% for the first preseason game, at the pace he's had.



Look, I'm not trying to go all conspiracy theory on yall but... Let's have some fun. Who's the HC here? Shanahan. He's one of, if not the most secretive coach in the NFL. It would make perfect sense for him to instruct the franchise to not clear up the murkiness of the injury. Let the media run crazy and blow this out of proportion in effort to garner page hits. Don't deny it, don't acknowledge it directly.


Play Kirk all preseason long. Rex won't touch the field. White is...who know's what White is. But let Kirk play an entire half all preason long. Show him off to the league. Mix some Pat and Rex in for good measure. MAYBE give RGIII one series, maybe two. And then...


Trot a 95%-100% RGIII out onto the field in week 1.



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Robert Griffin III addressed the media for the first time on team property since the end of last season Thursday, and as one would expect, he had a lot to say during his 20-minute press conference.

In the first of what surely will be many installments breaking down Griffin's presser (DISCLAIMER: I'm sorry), he shared the experience of his right knee surgery with the throng of reporters that descended upon Ashburn Thursday.

According to RGIII, he actually didn't realize that he had his ACL reconstructed until after he woke up from what was originally scheduled to be LCL surgery.

"The tough part about it honestly was I went into surgery not knowing what was wrong," he said. "I knew I was going to have to get my LCL repaired, but looking at the MRIs and everything, we couldn't really tell if my ACL needed to be repaired. I've been through this before, so I know if you have a patellar tendon graft on the same knee, you can't get it from the same knee, so I knew when I got put to sleep if I woke up and felt my left knee that I had surgery on my ACL.

"So I woke up -- the nurse didn't notice I was up -- and I felt my left leg. I went back to sleep because I didn't want to have to deal with it at that time. And yeah, it's tough for me to talk about it; it's one of the things I get emotional about because it was tough at that time. I woke back up and told everybody who was there in that room with me, and it was tough. That's the easiest way to say it.
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Postby Chris Luva Luva » Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:38 pm

Not debating whether or not his ACL was worked on, it's the extent that's in question.
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Postby 1niksder » Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:04 pm

It was a complete tear..............

but

Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III had total reconstructive surgery of his right knee early Wednesday morning to repair torn anterior cruciate and lateral collateral ligaments, but he is expected to be ready for the opener of the 2013 NFL regular season, according to team sources familiar with the determination made by orthopedic specialist Dr. James Andrews.

The surgery was completed by Wednesday afternoon, according to multiple reports.

The torn ACL was diagnosed late Tuesday as a complete tear of the patella graft that was used to repair Griffin's torn ACL suffered at Baylor in 2009. A team source said Andrews likely will use a patella graft from Griffin's left knee to repair the most recent tear.


Was it a complete tear of the ACL or a complete tear of the graft :?:


Robert Griffin III had surgery Wednesday to repair his torn right lateral collateral ligament and "re-do" the right anterior cruciate ligament he tore in college, according to a statement by the orthopedic surgeon, Dr. James Andrews, who performed the procedure in Pensacola, Fla.

"Robert Griffin III had successful knee surgery early this morning. He had a direct repair of his LCL and a re-do of his previous ACL reconstruction," Andrews said in the statement. "We expect a full recovery and it is everybody's hope and belief that due to Robert's high motivation, he will be ready for the 2013 season.


That sounds like the graft too.
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Postby Chris Luva Luva » Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:22 pm

1niksder wrote:
Was it a complete tear of the ACL or a complete tear of the graft :?:
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Mmmhhhhmmm... Now you're wondering too. :lol:
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Postby SkinsJock » Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:39 pm

I'm very sure of 2 things - RG3 is NOT playing AT ALL until he's 100% ..

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RG3's knee will be as strong, if not better than it was last season and he will be a better QB and leader than he was last season

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Postby 1niksder » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:38 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
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Was it a complete tear of the ACL or a complete tear of the graft :?:
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Mmmhhhhmmm... Now you're wondering too. :lol:


I'm not just starting to wonder...

The first full report on the surgery said it was the LCL and and damage to the graft that had resulted from the previous ACL.

I knew they weren't saying he had tore his ACL, but...

It made me wonder how they could take a graft from the previously repaired ACL to re-do the graft that was taken to repair the graft that resulted from the first ACL reconstruction.


So I'm not starting to wonder I'm still confused though :shock:
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Postby Chris Luva Luva » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:09 am

1niksder wrote:So I'm not starting to wonder I'm still confused though :shock:


I'm always confused. :lol:
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Postby skinsfan#33 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:46 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
1niksder wrote:
Was it a complete tear of the ACL or a complete tear of the graft :?:
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Mmmhhhhmmm... Now you're wondering too. :lol:


You guys are starting to pick the fly poo out of the pepper!

You have to stop and ask yourself what difference does it make if it was the graft our the ACL. And the answer is none.

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So he had surgery to repair his ACL, it doesn't matter if it was the part of the ACL that used to be in his patella because now it was part of his ACL.

The ACL injury is the part I'm most worried about. The part that concerns me the most is the meniscus damage. Ligaments can be repaired but every injury to cartilage in an decreases the athletes playing life span. Bone to bone contact in a knee = career over.
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