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Re: USPTO Cancels Redskins Trademarks

Postby riggofan » Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:45 am

yupchagee wrote:Such ads would cost business. What business would want to that.


Yeah you're right. I'm sure there would never be any issues ever.

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Re: USPTO Cancels Redskins Trademarks

Postby BigRedskinDaddy » Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:23 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:This situation has revealed some truths about Snyder and this organization.


1. Snyder is still an idiot.
2. Bruce Allen and company are "yes men".


Snyder has totally screwed himself. He's been overly demonstrative in his unwillingness to listen. The words and tone of his messages have done nothing but fuel the fire. The twitter campaigns from this organization have backfired and were stupid to begin with. If the NYPD and other organizations haven't taught their PR dept anything, nothing will. SOMEBODY has to grow a pair of balls and Bruce Allen isn't that man. Snyder as usual is his own worst enemy. He cannot protect himself, from himself. Nobody can protect this team from him either. They're all too scared.

This was a bad situation to begin with, but I feel that if he'd simply STFU and not be so abrasive, it would have ended in a stale-mate. But his brashness has forced the fence sitters against him. It's forced people who didn't really give a darn either way to spite him, because he's uber insensitive. He's a moron. And all he did was appease a fanbase that loves him one day and will hate him the other. They're fickle, and he sold out for them and he's gonna lose. He's gonna lose the name, the money and the fanbase. Why? Because he's an idiot and nobody is willing to tell him that he doesn't know it all.

- Dan Snyder, you're a failure. But we already knew that.
- Bruce Allen, I had hopes. But you sir have failed too.


Howdy fellas. Man, the new place looks nice. Different, but nice. Kudos. Gonna take me a little getting used to, but hey, there are greater tragedies in life. On topic:

I must tell you that I have not been following this grassroots-turned-raging brushfire controversy as closely as most of you have; from the moment it first appeared on my radar I was uneasy, as if there was a genuine threat to the name even though I couldn't identify it. So I more or less pretended it didn't exist hoping it would oblige me by ceasing to exist; that's how I roll. It hasn't, and at this point it seems as if nothing will prevent the eventual loss of a name that I hadn't even freaking theorized could ever be lost. Not in my wildest, THC-laden flights of mental fantasy as a younger man did I ever think this would happen...but it will, and in my lifetime no less. So when I disagree with you on this point, know that it is pure spec, gut feeling, in other words, completely unguided by anything rational. And probably way off the mark. I do not think the Dan precipitated the tidal wave of anti-Redskins sentiment we're seeing now by being vociferously stubborn and unapologetic, or any other boorishness. Granted, as the Dan he cannot improve a potentially bad situation by any tools such as tact, or diplomacy - he is the anti-Carnegie in that respect - but I truly feel this was inevitable and no one at the helm could've done much more than forestall it a bit. JKC today would've been villified BIG-TIME with his "there is not one iota, one chance...." (badly-paraphrased) quote way back when. And JKC was about as suave and dapper as it gets, brother. The man knew how to work someone holding a mic in front of him. So while I have no doubt Herr Snyder has accelerated the process somewhat simply by being himself and doing his thing, I think you err in laying the final outcome at his feet. This, IMHO, was going to happen no matter what. Why I can't say, but the only variable is and ever was the when, not the if.


EDIT: Gents, kindly disregard the opening remark about the new look. A quick search revealed I have apparently already seen it, and liked it then as well. So while I am old and forget stuff now, at least I'm marginally consistent. <sigh> Now where the heck are my keys...?
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Re: USPTO Cancels Redskins Trademarks

Postby DarthMonk » Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:15 pm

BigRedskinDaddy wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:This situation has revealed some truths about Snyder and this organization.


1. Snyder is still an idiot.
2. Bruce Allen and company are "yes men".


Snyder has totally screwed himself. He's been overly demonstrative in his unwillingness to listen. The words and tone of his messages have done nothing but fuel the fire. The twitter campaigns from this organization have backfired and were stupid to begin with. If the NYPD and other organizations haven't taught their PR dept anything, nothing will. SOMEBODY has to grow a pair of balls and Bruce Allen isn't that man. Snyder as usual is his own worst enemy. He cannot protect himself, from himself. Nobody can protect this team from him either. They're all too scared.

This was a bad situation to begin with, but I feel that if he'd simply STFU and not be so abrasive, it would have ended in a stale-mate. But his brashness has forced the fence sitters against him. It's forced people who didn't really give a darn either way to spite him, because he's uber insensitive. He's a moron. And all he did was appease a fanbase that loves him one day and will hate him the other. They're fickle, and he sold out for them and he's gonna lose. He's gonna lose the name, the money and the fanbase. Why? Because he's an idiot and nobody is willing to tell him that he doesn't know it all.

- Dan Snyder, you're a failure. But we already knew that.
- Bruce Allen, I had hopes. But you sir have failed too.


Howdy fellas. Man, the new place looks nice. Different, but nice. Kudos. Gonna take me a little getting used to, but hey, there are greater tragedies in life. On topic:

I must tell you that I have not been following this grassroots-turned-raging brushfire controversy as closely as most of you have; from the moment it first appeared on my radar I was uneasy, as if there was a genuine threat to the name even though I couldn't identify it. So I more or less pretended it didn't exist hoping it would oblige me by ceasing to exist; that's how I roll. It hasn't, and at this point it seems as if nothing will prevent the eventual loss of a name that I hadn't even freaking theorized could ever be lost. Not in my wildest, THC-laden flights of mental fantasy as a younger man did I ever think this would happen...but it will, and in my lifetime no less. So when I disagree with you on this point, know that it is pure spec, gut feeling, in other words, completely unguided by anything rational. And probably way off the mark. I do not think the Dan precipitated the tidal wave of anti-Redskins sentiment we're seeing now by being vociferously stubborn and unapologetic, or any other boorishness. Granted, as the Dan he cannot improve a potentially bad situation by any tools such as tact, or diplomacy - he is the anti-Carnegie in that respect - but I truly feel this was inevitable and no one at the helm could've done much more than forestall it a bit. JKC today would've been villified BIG-TIME with his "there is not one iota, one chance...." (badly-paraphrased) quote way back when. And JKC was about as suave and dapper as it gets, brother. The man knew how to work someone holding a mic in front of him. So while I have no doubt Herr Snyder has accelerated the process somewhat simply by being himself and doing his thing, I think you err in laying the final outcome at his feet. This, IMHO, was going to happen no matter what. Why I can't say, but the only variable is and ever was the when, not the if.


EDIT: Gents, kindly disregard the opening remark about the new look. A quick search revealed I have apparently already seen it, and liked it then as well. So while I am old and forget stuff now, at least I'm marginally consistent. <sigh> Now where the heck are my keys...?


Check the ignition. Nice post bro. Good to have you back. Hail to the Redskins.
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Re: USPTO Cancels Redskins Trademarks

Postby Kilmer72 » Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:49 pm

riggofan wrote:
DarthMonk wrote:You don’t really want government agencies to become the arbiter of acceptable words and images. You really don’t. -snip-


You don't? So you would be cool walking into a grocery store with your kids and seeing cereal boxes with pictures of fully penetrated porn stars labelled "Big T**** O's"? :)

#-o Not sure where you got that quote from, but that's a real head scratcher to me. Government agencies have been regulating acceptable words and images for decades. Not just the USPTO, but the FCC. If people want to argue that there shouldn't be that type of regulation anymore, that's a different story.


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Re: USPTO Cancels Redskins Trademarks

Postby BigRedskinDaddy » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:06 am

DarthMonk wrote:Check the ignition. Nice post bro. Good to have you back. Hail to the Redskins.


The ignition! Of course, now I remember. Good looking out brother. And thanks for the sentiment. Yes indeed, HTTR forever - no matter what our society of rampant, uncontrollable, runaway liberalism will soon force upon us in lieu of 'Redskins.' To you, to me and to true diehards everywhere they will always be, as Costas put it in that droll, I'm smarter than you way of his, "every bit the equivalent of a word that has been associated with African Americans for centuries." ROTFLMAO! He's now officially the Ultimate Tool as far as I'm concerned. But hey, it's cool, cuz if it gets too close to a change for our comfort I'll turn Ray Donovan loose on 'em. Friend of a friend, you know -
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Re: USPTO Cancels Redskins Trademarks

Postby EA7649 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:39 pm

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2 ... ate-racist

Phil Simms might not say "Redskins", rather saying Washington for their first game against the Giants

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Re: USPTO Cancels Redskins Trademarks

Postby yupchagee » Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:29 pm

EA7649 wrote:http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2014-08-18/phil-simms-redskins-name-cbs-broadcast-washington-fox-tv-name-controversy-jim-nantz-debate-racist

Phil Simms might not say "Redskins", rather saying Washington for their first game against the Giants



Maybe he will say "700 nm dermal tissue" instead? :roll: :?:
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