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Postby HTTRRG3ALMO » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:18 pm

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but what if the worst is found to be true and RG3 will need "full-blow reconstructive surgery?"

I know they said he would miss the 2013 season but what does that mean about his career/ability/running speed?

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Postby cowboykillerzRGiii » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:19 pm

HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:Sorry if this has already been discussed, but what if the worst is found to be true and RG3 will need "full-blow reconstructive surgery?"

I know they said he would miss the 2013 season but what does that mean about his career/ability/running speed?


Ask AP....
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Postby RG3peat » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:21 pm

Deadskins wrote:If Adrian Peterson can get his knee totally reconstructed in early January, and be back (with a vengeance) the following season, why is RGIII going to have to miss all of next season? I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, I'm asking a serious question. Hasn't Dr. Andrews made some kind of new breakthroughs in these procedures?


Well....I dont know if he has the same body...different bodies are built different....I believe he has the same drive and ethic and commitment as AP....How long did it take his FIRST time? This is the SECOND time. He better do more squats and leg workouts then doing commercials and promoting your "brand"....If he dont it wont be long before hes done and spit out.

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Postby RayNAustin » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:28 pm

Deadskins wrote:If Adrian Peterson can get his knee totally reconstructed in early January, and be back (with a vengeance) the following season, why is RGIII going to have to miss all of next season? I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, I'm asking a serious question. Hasn't Dr. Andrews made some kind of new breakthroughs in these procedures?


He's already had one ACL reconstruction .... and there are slight physical differences between RG3 and Peterson ... as in Peterson's legs are about the size of RG3's waist, for one.

And you didn't see Peterson sent back out and finish the Redskin game trying to play on the damaged knee, either.

I'm only speculating (and I hope I'm wrong), but normally, if there is damage shown in an MRI, they just come out and say so ... without all of the cloak and dagger secrecy and this lets wait for a second opinion stuff. That tells me there is serious damage, and they didn't like the diagnosis.

It's just worrying based on the unusual secrecy. The news cannot be good, or they'd serve up a little feel good to take the heat off Shanahan.

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Postby HTTRRG3ALMO » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:30 pm

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:
HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:Sorry if this has already been discussed, but what if the worst is found to be true and RG3 will need "full-blow reconstructive surgery?"

I know they said he would miss the 2013 season but what does that mean about his career/ability/running speed?


Ask AP....


Excellent point. Seems that people were amazed at his recovery. Or was that moreso the amazement of how quickly he recovered? In other words is full recovery typical with variations on total time?

Granted, I know I'm asking questions people can't really answer, but if there's a much higher margin of players to fully recover and do great things again, I'd feel more relaxed

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Postby RayNAustin » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:36 pm

cleg wrote:I dont think you can fire Shanny for this but any extension should be taken off the table for sure. I agree with Ray.


Sorry Cleg ... you're going to have to get tougher than that if you wish to agree with me. I told my wife toward the middle of the 2nd QT, that if I were Snyder, I'd have sent word down to Shanahan that if I saw RG3 limping back out onto the field one more series, that I'd have security escort him and his son off the premises, and hand over the game to Haslett to finish.

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Postby RG3peat » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:38 pm

Ive had MRIs and I know (but may have gotten better) that MRIs are tough to read when the swelling is still there and that HAS to be gone before they go in to fix it....I think the results were cloudy today......Just keep him away from Black and Cedric....he dont need any PEDs. On that note, we need a RT....

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Postby RG3peat » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:39 pm

RayNAustin wrote:
cleg wrote:I dont think you can fire Shanny for this but any extension should be taken off the table for sure. I agree with Ray.


Sorry Cleg ... you're going to have to get tougher than that if you wish to agree with me. I told my wife toward the middle of the 2nd QT, that if I were Snyder, I'd have sent word down to Shanahan that if I saw RG3 limping back out onto the field one more series, that I'd have security escort him and his son off the premises, and hand over the game to Haslett to finish.


I would have locked the door to the dressingroom when he went in there

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Postby DarthMonk » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:42 pm

Deadskins wrote:If Adrian Peterson can get his knee totally reconstructed in early January, and be back (with a vengeance) the following season, why is RGIII going to have to miss all of next season? I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, I'm asking a serious question. Hasn't Dr. Andrews made some kind of new breakthroughs in these procedures?


I would say AP is actually still healing - believe it or not.

Andrews is evidently the best. Griff may have 3 tears and a bone bruise. I hope not.

I happen to pretty much agree with Ray Ray.

Shanny should have shown more faith in Kirk and thought more about Griff's future. I understand this is easy for me to say.

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Postby cowboykillerzRGiii » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:44 pm

Deadskins wrote:If Adrian Peterson can get his knee totally reconstructed in early January, and be back (with a vengeance) the following season, why is RGIII going to have to miss all of next season? I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, I'm asking a serious question. Hasn't Dr. Andrews made some kind of new breakthroughs in these procedures?


Dunno how I missed this... But damn we think alike, my only thought has been "he better tweet to ap or something ASAP!"
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Postby tribeofjudah » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:47 pm

Burgundy&Wha? wrote:Just heard a radio report that said it was torn ACL & PCL. He's out 14-18 months, but hoping for a second opinion.

I'm not too happy that he continued to play yesterday. The coaches can be faulted. RG III, himself, can be faulted to a degree. To hear him in his presser yesterday, he didn't feel the team could win without him. You have to have faith in your teammates. Hand the reins over to Cousins when you're limping like that. It's not like he had an a$$ like Jay Schroeder behind him.


I heard "partial" tear.....but what do i know..??? How long did it take AP to get back to normal?
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Postby RayNAustin » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:11 pm

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:
RayNAustin wrote:
welch wrote:One side note: Dan Snyder is flying to Pensacola with Robert Griffin. As many bad things as I have said about The Danny (and thought worse), this seems like just the right time and way for the owner to be involved.

Meanwhile, I'm not guessing about the degree of injury. Better to wait until Dr Andrews has finished the examination. It's not like my guessing matters.

If Kirk Cousins is the starter for a season, so be it. We will keep Robert GRiffin III in our thoughts, and hail the Redskins.


Oh well? C'est la vie ? No use crying over spilled milk? You've got to be joking right? Please tell me I'm not the only one on this god forsaken board that thinks some responsible adult heads should roll for this grossly negligent debacle?

Look ... this isn't just a case of "injuries happen". This is a case of the entire world watching and wondering what the heck these knuckle-heads were thinking by leaving him out there like a one legged tackling dummy, and risking his entire career, when anyone with something other than air between their ears could see he needed to be pulled out.

Look .... oh what the heck ... never mind ... I'm stuck in an alternate universe, or the twilight zone, and I'm just talking to myself.


I'm pissed off too brother... But what's to happen? Fire Shanny for trusting his qb when he says he's got this don't take him out, and the drs clear him after he left in the first half? Or do we cut Rgiii for being stubborn and not upfront about his status? Blame game, point fingers? Fire everyone?
It's pointless to think about the what ifs.. and worse to stay upset about it.

I'm on the positive, pray for the knee, tip... Let's get RGiii to APs house and make friends. AP should be his new brother from another mother during this time.. I'm talkin same drs same rehab trainers etc... He is a freak like AP and can beat this injury even the worst case scenarios.
HAIL to RGiii god bless the knee!


Look my friend, I was just watching on TV and I could see the kid needed to come out. If this had been a fight in Vegas, they would have stopped it.

Shanahan is an experienced coach, and he knows that players lie about the degree of pain and injury, and won't say anything other than I'm fine. Heck, that's what RG3 said in the post game presser ... "hows the knee" .. "it's fine".

RG3 is the player ... Shanahan is the coach ... the players don't make those decisions, the Coach does ... and he could see everything I could see and more ... and the responsibility of the head coach to not jeopardize either a player's health or best interests of the team (both short and long term interests) ... and in this case, Shanahan's poor judgement happened to fail at all three of those responsibilities.

Perhaps I should remind (or inform as the case may be) that Shanahan once sent out Terrell Davis (while he was suffering migraine headaches and virtually could not see) as a decoy in the Super Bowl against the Packers?

I laugh when I hear this talk that Shanahan would never .. blah, blah, blah .... when he already has.

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Any and All News About RG3's Knee - Merged

Postby crazyhorse1 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:00 am

RG3 has a torn ACL but extent of damage not yet determined--could be extremely serious. I feel sick.

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Re: Bad news about the knee

Postby HTTRRG3ALMO » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:19 am

crazyhorse1 wrote:RG3 has a torn ACL but extent of damage not yet determined--could be extremely serious. I feel sick.


They were just saying on Sportsnet that there have been players out there who have had reconstructive knee surgery as many as seven times and have come back to full strength.

This whole thing started from a freak play. There could me many more of these freak plays, or this could simply have been an isolated issue in his professional career.

I'd rather these thoroughly handle this situation even if it means sitting him out for 2013. This is a better option than to go through this again and again until he can't play at all.

I think he will continue to learn and become more and more careful. Many believe if he can't run he looses his edge. I don't buy this for one second. Better receivers, longer protection from the line, and an even more improved arm and he's just as dangerous as ever.

I don't believe he will ever stop running which means he will never stop getting hit. Some training on when to slide by gauging defender distance and running out of bounds in time before a hit would lower his risk greatly.

Brian Mitchel said it perfectly "get an offensive line that lets you run your backs anyway you want and you don't have to worry about RG3 having to run to get yardage."

Here's my large wish list:
1. POWERFUL offensive line
2. 3 POWERFUL WRs (Garcon is one of them)
3. 2 running threats; RB & a strong blocking FB
4. Use RG3's elusiveness to avoid sacks and get just a few yards on a run

Guess I'm asking for a new offense but isn't that the point? For us to continue to upgrade more and more whether through conditioning current players or getting new ones?

That said, I don't think we will be able to dial down RG3 until its too late. How do you tame and keep the wild? Not going to be easy...glad its not me who has to figure it out.

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Re: Bad news about the knee

Postby GFlanagan3 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:46 am

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Here's my large wish list:
1. POWERFUL offensive line
2. 3 POWERFUL WRs (Garcon is one of them)
3. 2 running threats; RB & a strong blocking FB
4. Use RG3's elusiveness to avoid sacks and get just a few yards on a run

I agree and those have been needs for years. Yes I am concerned about RGIII , but I have faith that he , the coaching staff and his Dr.s will make the right decisions. If he sits out a season then we continue building and get Cousins some experience-that is a win in my book.

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Guess I'm asking for a new offense but isn't that the point? For us to continue to upgrade more and more whether through conditioning current players or getting new ones?

[/quote] I think a new offense is PRECISELY the point. What we have been doing isn't working. Let's build. Let's Win. Let's restore pride.

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