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Postby chiefhog44 » Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:53 pm

Red_One43 wrote:
chiefhog44 wrote:Let's look at this.
Carolina - Picked Clausen last year
Denver - Has Orton AND Tebow
Buffalo - Luck doesn't drop any further from here.
Cincinnati - Palmer started playing very well once those bozo's we're out doubt they pick anyone up here.
Arizona - Would they trade down for McNabb??? Very interesting.
Cleveland - Mccoy
San Fran - Still have to think Smith is in there now that Singletary is out
Tenn - Owner wants Young
Dallas - Homo
Washington - Looking at a full deck of QB's at this position minue Luck. Could we trade up with Arizona for Mcnabb and #11, then up to 3 with Buffalo? Anybody know what the point's needed to trade from 5 to 3?


If the Cards think that Skelton is the QB of their future then it is plausible that the Cards could trade down in a trade that would include McNabb with McNabb holding the reins for Skelton, but I have no idea hwo they felt about Skelton's evaluation; however from what you posted it seems very likely that the QB Shanny wants might be available.


Hell, I think it's plausable now that Seattle won, that we could reach Luck
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Postby frankcal20 » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:15 am

Clausen has proven that he's not that good of a QB. If Carolina has the 1st pick, they're going to trade out or pick Luck.

1st off - the city will 100% revolt if they don't.
#2 - with a new coach, he's going to want a starting calaber QB starting and Clausen isn't it.

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My Take

Postby GoSkins » Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:16 pm

There are rumors that Arizona is interested in McNabb. With the Redskins picking 10th it does make sense to trade McNabb and move up to Arizona's spot which is #5. So which QB does Shanny want? Well, he has to be smart, accurate and mobile. That means Mallett and Newton are probably out. Can Shanny still move up to 1 and get Luck? That would be the coups of the century. I also think we will trade Haynesworth and hopefully get a 3rd.

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Re: My Take

Postby chiefhog44 » Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:59 pm

GoSkins wrote:There are rumors that Arizona is interested in McNabb. With the Redskins picking 10th it does make sense to trade McNabb and move up to Arizona's spot which is #5. So which QB does Shanny want? Well, he has to be smart, accurate and mobile. That means Mallett and Newton are probably out. Can Shanny still move up to 1 and get Luck? That would be the coups of the century. I also think we will trade Haynesworth and hopefully get a 3rd.


I am ALL for mortgaging the furture for Luck RIGHT NOW. Sell the farm, give Arizona Mcnabb and #10 for their pick at 5. Then give Carolina whatever they want for Luck... Haynesworth, Carter, Cooley and a couple other draft picks. What are the points needed for trading draft picks to move from 5 to 1? We can get the rest of our needs in a HUGE free agency pool this year. sorry but this guy could be the answer. Ahhh I said could be, but what are we really trading away? A bunch of guys who don't fit our scheme and lower percentage could be's. I'll roll the dice bia$ch
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Re: My Take

Postby KazooSkinsFan » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:29 pm

chiefhog44 wrote:I am ALL for mortgaging the furture for Luck RIGHT NOW. Sell the farm, give Arizona Mcnabb and #10 for their pick at 5. Then give Carolina whatever they want for Luck... Haynesworth, Carter, Cooley and a couple other draft picks. What are the points needed for trading draft picks to move from 5 to 1? We can get the rest of our needs in a HUGE free agency pool this year. sorry but this guy could be the answer. Ahhh I said could be, but what are we really trading away? A bunch of guys who don't fit our scheme and lower percentage could be's. I'll roll the dice bia$ch

Man, we have so many needs to give away everything we have left to get one guy doesn't seem like a good idea to me. And college QB's are so hard to predict. If he ends up being an Alex Smith or a Heath Schuler we're totally screwed. And if he's Peyton Manning he doesn't have a team.
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Re: My Take

Postby TCIYM » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:41 pm

KazooSkinsFan wrote:Man, we have so many needs to give away everything we have left to get one guy doesn't seem like a good idea to me. And college QB's are so hard to predict. If he ends up being an Alex Smith or a Heath Schuler we're totally screwed. And if he's Peyton Manning he doesn't have a team.


This.

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Postby TCIYM » Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:28 pm

@RossTuckerNFL: I spoke with well-placed NFL source who is higher on Ryan Mallett than Andrew Luck. Said Luck has "very average" NFL arm.

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Re: My Take

Postby chiefhog44 » Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:26 pm

KazooSkinsFan wrote:
chiefhog44 wrote:I am ALL for mortgaging the furture for Luck RIGHT NOW. Sell the farm, give Arizona Mcnabb and #10 for their pick at 5. Then give Carolina whatever they want for Luck... Haynesworth, Carter, Cooley and a couple other draft picks. What are the points needed for trading draft picks to move from 5 to 1? We can get the rest of our needs in a HUGE free agency pool this year. sorry but this guy could be the answer. Ahhh I said could be, but what are we really trading away? A bunch of guys who don't fit our scheme and lower percentage could be's. I'll roll the dice bia$ch

Man, we have so many needs to give away everything we have left to get one guy doesn't seem like a good idea to me. And college QB's are so hard to predict. If he ends up being an Alex Smith or a Heath Schuler we're totally screwed. And if he's Peyton Manning he doesn't have a team.


Neither did Peyton Manning when he came out, and the jury is still out on Alex Smith.

I'm not sure that you could call Norv Turner a good evaluation of QB talent considering he's never drafted a QB in the 3rd or higher rounds as a head coach that has not been a bust, not to mention that Norv Turner sucks my ass.
Heath Shuler
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A look at Shannahans...
Brian Griese
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Just a vote of confidence that Shannahan knows QB's
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Re: My Take

Postby chiefhog44 » Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:25 pm

chiefhog44 wrote:
GoSkins wrote:There are rumors that Arizona is interested in McNabb. With the Redskins picking 10th it does make sense to trade McNabb and move up to Arizona's spot which is #5. So which QB does Shanny want? Well, he has to be smart, accurate and mobile. That means Mallett and Newton are probably out. Can Shanny still move up to 1 and get Luck? That would be the coups of the century. I also think we will trade Haynesworth and hopefully get a 3rd.


I am ALL for mortgaging the furture for Luck RIGHT NOW. Sell the farm, give Arizona Mcnabb and #10 for their pick at 5. Then give Carolina whatever they want for Luck... Haynesworth, Carter, Cooley and a couple other draft picks. What are the points needed for trading draft picks to move from 5 to 1? We can get the rest of our needs in a HUGE free agency pool this year. sorry but this guy could be the answer. Ahhh I said could be, but what are we really trading away? A bunch of guys who don't fit our scheme and lower percentage could be's. I'll roll the dice bia$ch



I just found the answer to the point system question. We're not getting Luck.
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Postby Skinsfan55 » Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:06 am

The word was that before he decided to stay for his senior season Shanahan was very impressed with Jake Locker. I still think he's the guy we're looking at next season. Why wouldn't Carolina take Andrew Luck anyway? They have a good line, a decent running game... it's a good situation for a young QB.
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Postby Countertrey » Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:29 am

Skinsfan55 wrote:The word was that before he decided to stay for his senior season Shanahan was very impressed with Jake Locker. I still think he's the guy we're looking at next season. Why wouldn't Carolina take Andrew Luck anyway? They have a good line, a decent running game... it's a good situation for a young QB.
... AND a new head coach... who will want to pick his own quarterback... My bet is they'll take Luck...
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Postby VetSkinsFan » Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:32 am

frankcal20 wrote:Clausen has proven that he's not that good of a QB. If Carolina has the 1st pick, they're going to trade out or pick Luck.

1st off - the city will 100% revolt if they don't.
#2 - with a new coach, he's going to want a starting calaber QB starting and Clausen isn't it.


Carloline was incredibly bad this year, and it wasn't all on the play of the QB. I don't think any QB could have succeeded in that place last year.
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Postby GoSkins » Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:54 pm

I hope Shanny is leaning to taking a QB in the draft. Who is the big question. I expect Grossman will start and the new QB will be his understudy. Hopefully the new QB will be starting at some point in his rookie season.

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Postby GoSkins » Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:21 pm

From watching last night's game and reading today's reports, it looks like Andrew Luck has solidified his position in the upcoming draft as the #1 pick.

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Postby Red_One43 » Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:35 pm

Mallett is looking pretty good despite all the drops.

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